Posted on 05/06/2017 5:43:53 AM PDT by PeaRidge
My friend, who lived in France for five years, and now in US, thinks our new health system is not only unnecessarily inadequate, but unsophisticated.
She says that in France that:
You get immediate appointments
Immediate treatment
World class results
Mideast sheiks go there
Relatively low cost meds (if you have to pay at all)
Latest improvements
All Free
To pay for this, she says All French citizens pay taxes.
Everyone pays the same percentage tax....35%
One page tax filing
To fellow Freepers......truth please.
Your friend is French. They need help not you.
Ask your friend about waiting lists. Also, my experience, and I am not from France, but another Western European country, is that these sort of health care systems do well on broken arms and runny noses, but not so much on cancer, diabetes and other major diseases.
A British American told me that he regularly made doctor’s appointments for family. They’d fly in, have the appointment or tests and then stay with him if they needed treatment. He said, (approximately) “if you have blood in your stool, for example, it will take weeks to get an appointment. Then, the follow up appointment will be so far in the future that if it’s a critical problem that needs immediate attention, you will be too far gone by the time your next appointment arrives. The British medical establishment has been killing off Britain’s by the thousands with policies like these. Here, you can be diagnosed and treated in the same week.”
Can we please send them our tens if millions of illegals and slave descendants?
Sure would take the strain off our ERs
Friend of a friend had breast cancer. Could not get appointment for many months. When they discovered her treatment, her age and the fact that that treatment’s annual amount had already been allocated....so she died.
Her husband said later had he brought her to America, she might have lived. This was around 2004.
It would be interesting to see how many instances of “the best of everything” are transplanted therapies from the US system your friend decries.
One good thing if true...EVERYONE pays 35% tax, one page form. Everyone has skin in the game.
Imagine if we had a similar tax system? The IRS would be 1000 employees instead of 79,000.
Mideast sheiks - is there another kind? ;)
But I can report the sheiks are still visiting the US for treatment in droves. In fact, they have de facto private floors (yes entire floors) that they have largely funded. And, of course, the Cleveland and Mayo Clinics don’t have to worry about which failing Obamacare plan the Arabs might be using.
I had a first time grand mal in France, and had excellent treatment, though the hospital bed was too small.
You only get the Healthcare that is approved by the system.
France has lots of private health care for you to pay for and is a destination for medical tourism.
From Wikipedia,
In 2011, France spent 11.6% of GDP on health care, or US$4,086 per capita, a figure much higher than the average spent by countries in Europe but less than in the US.
You pay for the health care of yourself and others whether you need it.
Here is something for you to read:
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/dispatches_from_the_welfare_state/2014/01/french_socialized_medicine_vs_u_s_health_care_having_a_baby_in_paris_is.html
I don’t believe that Sheiks go to France for medical care. With the hospitals in Riyadh, Dubai, even throughout Kuwait - those hospitals make sci-fi seem real, and they aren’t for anyone but arab elites. Such as Sheiks.
Your friend says something stupid like “All free” and you need help?
So the doctors work for free? The nurses too? The hospitals get built for free? The drugs get made with no money changing hands?
Please.
It’s important to note that France has a population rate 5 times smaller than the US, so the beauracracy on that is much easier to wield AND much cheaper to run.
Also, check this out for Cancer in France.
http://www.unicancer.fr/en/unicancer-group/key-figures/figures-cancer-france
http://www.wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/data-cancer-frequency-country
When it comes to medical research, NO country even comes close to the US.
According to this article
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi6xeb4qNvTAhWKq1QKHWUYAzUQFggqMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fmatthewherper%2F2011%2F03%2F23%2Fthe-most-innovative-countries-in-biology-and-medicine%2F&usg=AFQjCNG9lTM8CKAtB7p-ogNnIt-vjOE4EQ&sig2=D1eVUYX6kUhp7YbQ9fcsDg
40% of the medical research is done in the US.
That means countries like France get to ride along on our coattails.
(Just like they did in WWI, WWII, Viet Nam and NATO.
Your friend doesn’t know what she’s talking about - or is a liar.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_France
My friend is from Jordan, his father has a heart condition and needs open heart surgery. The hospital has a PRICE Menu on the wall.
Broken arm $150.00
on and on
Open Heart Surgery $16,000
All paid up front
All hospitals do the same and are competitive on pricing
An old couple goes into a restaurant, orders, eats and promptly takes there tab and hands it to a middle-age couple who orders, eats and promptly gives both the tab and their tab to a young couple, and so on. This is immoral. Period. I do not care how good the food is or how great the service is.
One other thing - have your friend google “French health care going broke”.
>>Everyone pays the same percentage tax....35%
Everyone? Even the “poor” and minorities and special victim groups?
This is why these socialism schemes can’t work in the US. It would start as an “everyone benefits, everyone sacrifices” plan and then the Special Interest Groups would start sending in the lobbyists. Benefits would improve for some. Sacrifices would go down for some and all the way down to zero for some.
These First World Snowflake Socialists who hate capitalism but can’t exist without their iPhone and Starbucks always fail to see the second half of the socialism equation: everyone sacrifices. All they see is free stuff with no concept of where free stuff comes from.
Americans spend inordinate amounts of money on things thet call “medical care” which European socialists simply will not do. First there is the huge expense of “defensive medicine” where doctors and hospitals perform tests, procedures and expensive futile therapies to shield themselves from lawsuits. Then there is state of the art expensive medicines and diagnostic testing with prolonged hospitalizations for the dying elderly many with terminal illnesses. Families have come to expect, often unreasonably demand and receive such care. There is an entire liability litigation industry which lawyers, doctors, chiropractors ,physical therapists etc. milk injuries for all they are worth with generally useless diagnostic testing and therapies. Innovation and cost savings are stifled by endless regulations and rules. Just a few of the reasons American medical care is expensive. The Socialists don’t really care for the individual but treat the collective.
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