Friend Who Lived in France Says Their Health System Superior

Self | 5/6/2017 | Self

[Nifster]

Even a trip to the ER would have gotten you in that fast. And yeah bile duct blockage is a very bad thing

[pacific_waters]

Your friend is woefully misinformed. I was in afib and was told there was a 6 month waiting period. Came to the states, one week. Income tax, social security contirbutions and of course the ubiquitous value added tax. Oh yes, you can’t sue for malpractice.

Income tax
Up to 9,710: EUR 0 percent tax
EUR 9,710 – EUR 26,818: 14 percent
EUR 26,819 – EUR 71,898: 30 percent
EUR 71,899 – EUR 152,260: 41 percent
EUR 152,261+: 45 percent
then there’s social security contirbutions/Left column emplyoyer right emplpyee and dont forget VAT.

Family Benefits 3.45% 0%
Health/Sickness 12.84% 0.75%
Social Charges (CSG/CRDS etc) 0% 8.0%
Accident at Work 3% 0%
Unemployment Benefit 6.40% 2.40%
Main Pension 9.90% 6.75%
Complementary Pension 16.45% 11%
Total (say) 50% 30%

[usconservative]

35% is just the income tax, ask your friend about all the other taxes the French also pay!

Then there's the French Economy which grows at a snails pace and has high unemployment among the young.

Their healthcare may be "superior" however their economy, high taxation elsewhere (try buying a gallon of gasoline in France for what we pay here, good luck!) make it a very expensive country to live in.

[Intolerant in NJ]

Everyone pays the same percentage tax....35%...ah well, if everyone here paid 35% in taxes we'd have that sort of ideal system - but half the people in this country pay NOTHING in income taxes - because they're "poor" - so they get "free" inefficient Medicaid financed by other people's money - once we get to the point of everyone here paying at least five percent of their income in taxes, we can start to modernize coverage for all.....

[minnesota_bound]

See Princess Diana. Helped to die by the French healthcare system. Once in an ambulance they did not hurry to the hospital where the doctors were. They think the patient can be stabilized in the vehicle so they do not speed. In England you are left in the ambulance if the overcrowded hallways are too crowded with patients.

Actress Natasha Richardson died from lack of helicopters in Canada to transport her to a hospital. Thousands of Canadians come to the USA as Canada lacks MRI and CAT machines. They are plentiful at clinics setup along the USA side. The Scandinavian countries which encourage you to die if you are old or not consider useful to the gov’t.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

The French pay a progressive income tax:

Up to 9,710: EUR 0 percent tax
EUR 9,710 – EUR 26,818: 14 percent
EUR 26,819 – EUR 71,898: 30 percent
EUR 71,899 – EUR 152,260: 41 percent
EUR 152,261+: 45 percent

In addition they pay 20-25% of their income for healthcare, unemployment and pension.