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1 posted on 05/06/2017 5:43:54 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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Need help

Your friend is French. They need help not you.

2 posted on 05/06/2017 5:46:39 AM PDT by Stentor
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Ask your friend about waiting lists. Also, my experience, and I am not from France, but another Western European country, is that these sort of health care systems do well on broken arms and runny noses, but not so much on cancer, diabetes and other major diseases.


3 posted on 05/06/2017 5:47:16 AM PDT by bergmeid
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A British American told me that he regularly made doctor’s appointments for family. They’d fly in, have the appointment or tests and then stay with him if they needed treatment. He said, (approximately) “if you have blood in your stool, for example, it will take weeks to get an appointment. Then, the follow up appointment will be so far in the future that if it’s a critical problem that needs immediate attention, you will be too far gone by the time your next appointment arrives. The British medical establishment has been killing off Britain’s by the thousands with policies like these. Here, you can be diagnosed and treated in the same week.”


4 posted on 05/06/2017 5:48:18 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Can we please send them our tens if millions of illegals and slave descendants?
Sure would take the strain off our ERs


5 posted on 05/06/2017 5:51:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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It would be interesting to see how many instances of “the best of everything” are transplanted therapies from the US system your friend decries.


7 posted on 05/06/2017 5:54:22 AM PDT by MortMan (Children are blessings, no matter how God brings them into your life.)
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One good thing if true...EVERYONE pays 35% tax, one page form. Everyone has skin in the game.

Imagine if we had a similar tax system? The IRS would be 1000 employees instead of 79,000.


8 posted on 05/06/2017 5:55:57 AM PDT by bigtoona (Make America Great Again! America First! Th)
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Mideast sheiks - is there another kind? ;)

But I can report the sheiks are still visiting the US for treatment in droves. In fact, they have de facto private floors (yes entire floors) that they have largely funded. And, of course, the Cleveland and Mayo Clinics don’t have to worry about which failing Obamacare plan the Arabs might be using.


9 posted on 05/06/2017 5:58:02 AM PDT by relictele
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I had a first time grand mal in France, and had excellent treatment, though the hospital bed was too small.


10 posted on 05/06/2017 5:59:07 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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You only get the Healthcare that is approved by the system.

France has lots of private health care for you to pay for and is a destination for medical tourism.

From Wikipedia,
In 2011, France spent 11.6% of GDP on health care, or US$4,086 per capita, a figure much higher than the average spent by countries in Europe but less than in the US.

You pay for the health care of yourself and others whether you need it.

Here is something for you to read:
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/dispatches_from_the_welfare_state/2014/01/french_socialized_medicine_vs_u_s_health_care_having_a_baby_in_paris_is.html


11 posted on 05/06/2017 5:59:07 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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Your friend says something stupid like “All free” and you need help?

So the doctors work for free? The nurses too? The hospitals get built for free? The drugs get made with no money changing hands?

Please.


13 posted on 05/06/2017 6:03:30 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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It’s important to note that France has a population rate 5 times smaller than the US, so the beauracracy on that is much easier to wield AND much cheaper to run.

Also, check this out for Cancer in France.
http://www.unicancer.fr/en/unicancer-group/key-figures/figures-cancer-france

http://www.wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/data-cancer-frequency-country

When it comes to medical research, NO country even comes close to the US.
According to this article
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi6xeb4qNvTAhWKq1QKHWUYAzUQFggqMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fmatthewherper%2F2011%2F03%2F23%2Fthe-most-innovative-countries-in-biology-and-medicine%2F&usg=AFQjCNG9lTM8CKAtB7p-ogNnIt-vjOE4EQ&sig2=D1eVUYX6kUhp7YbQ9fcsDg

40% of the medical research is done in the US.
That means countries like France get to ride along on our coattails.
(Just like they did in WWI, WWII, Viet Nam and NATO.


14 posted on 05/06/2017 6:03:59 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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Your friend doesn’t know what she’s talking about - or is a liar.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_France


15 posted on 05/06/2017 6:04:10 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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My friend is from Jordan, his father has a heart condition and needs open heart surgery. The hospital has a PRICE Menu on the wall.

Broken arm $150.00
on and on

Open Heart Surgery $16,000

All paid up front

All hospitals do the same and are competitive on pricing


16 posted on 05/06/2017 6:07:45 AM PDT by mplc51
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And stratospheric debt.

An old couple goes into a restaurant, orders, eats and promptly takes there tab and hands it to a middle-age couple who orders, eats and promptly gives both the tab and their tab to a young couple, and so on. This is immoral. Period. I do not care how good the food is or how great the service is.

17 posted on 05/06/2017 6:08:29 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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One other thing - have your friend google “French health care going broke”.


18 posted on 05/06/2017 6:08:33 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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>>Everyone pays the same percentage tax....35%

Everyone? Even the “poor” and minorities and special victim groups?

This is why these socialism schemes can’t work in the US. It would start as an “everyone benefits, everyone sacrifices” plan and then the Special Interest Groups would start sending in the lobbyists. Benefits would improve for some. Sacrifices would go down for some and all the way down to zero for some.

These First World Snowflake Socialists who hate capitalism but can’t exist without their iPhone and Starbucks always fail to see the second half of the socialism equation: everyone sacrifices. All they see is free stuff with no concept of where free stuff comes from.


19 posted on 05/06/2017 6:08:55 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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Americans spend inordinate amounts of money on things thet call “medical care” which European socialists simply will not do. First there is the huge expense of “defensive medicine” where doctors and hospitals perform tests, procedures and expensive futile therapies to shield themselves from lawsuits. Then there is state of the art expensive medicines and diagnostic testing with prolonged hospitalizations for the dying elderly many with terminal illnesses. Families have come to expect, often unreasonably demand and receive such care. There is an entire liability litigation industry which lawyers, doctors, chiropractors ,physical therapists etc. milk injuries for all they are worth with generally useless diagnostic testing and therapies. Innovation and cost savings are stifled by endless regulations and rules. Just a few of the reasons American medical care is expensive. The Socialists don’t really care for the individual but treat the collective.


20 posted on 05/06/2017 6:10:03 AM PDT by allendale
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In 2000, I was permanent residence of UK. I had back pain and other problem in 2000. I was unable to get appointment and wait period was 3 month. I called my Doctor here in USA. Got appointment immediately in US. After treatment, went back again to London to pack up.

Medical system is horrible in UK. My brother-in-law needed hip replacement, because he was unable to stand and pain was too much for him to handle. Wait period was one year unless and until he breaks his hip. So my sister suggested her GP, she can break it now. After using all scare tactics, he got operated after 15 days.


21 posted on 05/06/2017 6:10:37 AM PDT by jennychase
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The following is very big picture:

Canada, UK and Sweden - health care is largely paid by taxes (that are quite high), health care is delivered largely by government-run hospitals and clinics.

France - health care is largely paid by taxes (that are quite high), health care is delivered largely by private hospitals, clinics and free-standing doctors.

Germany - health care is paid by a combination of taxes and insurance. The poor get a bargain, since health care is free to them. Those employed by large companies, by small companies and those in the “individual market,” either directly or through associations, pay a reasonable amount for their insurance.

US - health care is paid by a combination of taxes and insurance. The poor get a bargain, since health care is free to them. Those employed by large companies pay a reasonable amount for their insurance. But, there are many people who are caught in the middle. Insurance in the “individual market” is unaffordable.

Japan - health care is largely paid out of pocket. People carry insurance only for very, very big medical expenses.

Among the provisions in the Republican plan is allowing people to buy insurance through associations. I don’t know why this is even controversial. Either the Democrats are dumb as rocks or else seek they so hate people in the middle that they don’t care what happens to them.


22 posted on 05/06/2017 6:11:44 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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35% tax.

Add in state and local sales tax.

Now add in state and local income tax.

For fun, let’s add in property tax, too (even renters pay it, just not directly).

Sounds awful.


23 posted on 05/06/2017 6:11:52 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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