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Searching for evidence of this human impact explains why there are conflicting reconstructions for this period. Reconstructions of the vegetation based on pollen and plant remains from lakes and marshland suggest that Europe had an open steppe vegetation. But computer simulations based on eight possible climate scenarios show that under natural conditions the landscape in large areas of Europe would have been far more densely forested. The researchers conclude that humans must have been responsible for the difference. Further evidence has been found in the traces of the use of fire in hunting settlements from this period and in the layers of ash in the soil.

My interpretation: "when our model comes in conflict with facts, the facts have got to go."

I'm very pro science, as anyone reading my posts knows. This is manufactured "people are bad, very bad" rhetoric by AGW believers. Core samples are, properly, the source for past environments.

Normally models are constructed based on facts at hand to explain and project those facts. The model doesn't work? Revise the model to attempt and explain the facts. Unless, of course, you are in an authoritarian regime where the conclusions come first to support the party line.

My usual caveat, "The answer to bad science is more science"

1 posted on 12/06/2016 10:00:44 AM PST by JimSEA
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Those hunters will do almost anything to bag a deer or two.


2 posted on 12/06/2016 10:02:47 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Ah yes, the days before lightning.


3 posted on 12/06/2016 10:03:57 AM PST by fruser1
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Once again white people are to blame.


4 posted on 12/06/2016 10:04:17 AM PST by MeganC (Hate crime: The heinous act of disagreeing with a liberal.)
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So now we know what caused the glaciers to melt. Humans playing with matches.


5 posted on 12/06/2016 10:07:11 AM PST by meadsjn
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The densely forested hills of Germany, the only break in the plains of northern Europe between the Pyrenees mountains and the Volga basin, was probably the only thing preventing the Romans from further conquest.


6 posted on 12/06/2016 10:07:32 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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Humans, what despicable bastards!


10 posted on 12/06/2016 10:09:30 AM PST by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)
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I’ve read previously where there were massive, wide-spread extinctions of megafauna shortly after humans arrived anywhere, and that widespread forest fires were the simplest way to explain which species survived and didn’t. It was speculated that the fires were the result of humans.


11 posted on 12/06/2016 10:11:19 AM PST by dangus
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Believe Indians in both North and South America were pretty cavalier about setting forests on fire. Basic tool of both hunting and agriculture for primitive stone age people.

But I don’t want to interrupt the narrative of “white Europeans are bad”.


13 posted on 12/06/2016 10:12:01 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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Excerpts from the article: "...probably the reason..."; " The finding..."; "It may be..."; "They probably did this..."; "Another possibility is that the ... fires may have been...

So far, I haven't read anything that even remotely resembles 'science.'

14 posted on 12/06/2016 10:13:20 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity
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“Large-scale forest fires started by prehistoric hunter-gatherers are probably the reason why Europe is not more densely forested”

forests generally regrow after fires, in fact, most conifer seeds generally MUST undergo fire before they’ll germinate. Forests in temperate climates also easily regrow when clear cut. Just look at fields left fallow too long in such climates: they quickly revert back to forest.


16 posted on 12/06/2016 10:14:07 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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I’m sure the Neanderthal version of Smokey the Bear was found to be tasty! lol


18 posted on 12/06/2016 10:15:13 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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So the claim is that thousands or ten of thousands of years ago, some trees burning made the composure of the modern forests and vegetation thickness? That sounds absurd. If it was True, south-east Tennessee should now be a great plains for the next 10,000 years.


20 posted on 12/06/2016 10:15:56 AM PST by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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21 posted on 12/06/2016 10:16:53 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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Dang those people missed their calling as the forensic arson squad.


22 posted on 12/06/2016 10:17:10 AM PST by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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Deliberate or negligent

If they were anything like me it was deliberate for sure!!!

24 posted on 12/06/2016 10:19:14 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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I read years ago, that people cut down trees to keep warm.

And later they farmed the open ground.


25 posted on 12/06/2016 10:19:52 AM PST by truth_seeker
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“Large-scale forest fires started by prehistoric hunter-gatherers are probably the reason why Europe is not more densely forested.”

That first sentence says it all. First, exactly how do they know the hunters purposely set forest fires?

Forest and grassland fires are purposely set today as it has been found a fire gives life to new growth. The fires of Yellowstone were purposely left to burn as the whackos figured this was natures way, and leave it alone, as it will regrow anyway. Our trip through the area about 10 years later did show new growth.

My point is, the second part of that sentence is all BS as forests regenerate after a fire.

Fake science!


26 posted on 12/06/2016 10:22:15 AM PST by redfreedom (The nation has been saved. Thank you Dear Lord. Long live President Trump!)
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What horsecrap. Forests replenish themselves eventually after fires.
Junk science.


32 posted on 12/06/2016 10:43:18 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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I thought it was their SUVs.


34 posted on 12/06/2016 10:46:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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I thought it was the Venetians cutting down all the trees for shipbuilding.


37 posted on 12/06/2016 10:51:54 AM PST by Daveinyork
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