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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD AUGUST 26, 2016
freerepublic | aug 26. 2016 | greeneyes

Posted on 08/26/2016 3:57:46 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks.

No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table(recipes)preserving, good living - there is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


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To: greeneyes

I goofed and bought a pack of San Marzano tomato seeds from 2011. I started them indoors and almost all germinated. Mr. Sg transplanted them in the garden and we’re still getting a good yield. Planted too many cantaloupes and we’ve had more than enough for ourselves, friends and neighbors. Zukes are done. Lots of jalapenos and sweet banana peppers. Sugar snap peas don’t seem to like this climate, but we had three batches that were delicious. We actually got five eggplants this year, only to discover that Mr. Sg doesn’t like them. Marigolds came up; nasturtiums didn’t. We’ve been very blessed this year.


21 posted on 08/26/2016 6:30:35 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If freezing damp seeds cracks them, how do seeds “in the wild” get dry before winter hits?


22 posted on 08/26/2016 6:32:34 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: greeneyes; DuncanWaring
greeneyes :" I just throw them in a zip bag, with the date, and throw them in a card board box on a shelf in the basement where they don’t get wet."

Keeping viable seed from year to year is fairly easy if you keep them in a dry, fairly stable cool temperature, and away from sunlight
A basement generally meets these requirements.
As was stated , just make sure they are stored after they are absolutely dry, or they will mold.
Always conduct a germination test on saved seed, unless recommended only to direct seed;
your garden productivity may depend on it, as frequently crop loss timing does not allow for optimum re-seeding.

Two websites about seed longevity for information:
Life Expectancy of Vegetable Seeds Chart ( Iowa State University)
www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/hortnews/1999/4-2-1999/veggielife.html

Seedman.com (info on storage,germination, # of seeds per ounce, and chart of seed longevity)
www.seedman.com/veggerm.htm

23 posted on 08/26/2016 6:44:07 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: left that other site; greeneyes
left that other site:" I got lots of yellow flowers that may or may not turn into zucchini and cukes."

Hang in there !
The first flowers from Curcubits are males (stamin) - needed for pollination.
The next set of flowers should be female (ova)- which will develop into fruit.
The female flowers should be slightly more bulbous at the base of the flower, and will develop into the fruit.

24 posted on 08/26/2016 6:51:35 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: Darth Reardon
Darth
Several weeks ago, I read that the Israelis had developed apple varieties that didn't need a "lengthy chill period" , or freeze to set fruit.
I am unaware if they are available here in the States, yet.
I don't recall if they gave a varietal name, or not , but its offering hope for those who see no freezing temperatures.
25 posted on 08/26/2016 7:03:38 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Aha! thanks for that!

The bees are loving them, so pollination is happening! :-)


26 posted on 08/26/2016 7:17:10 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: DuncanWaring; Diana in Wisconsin; greeneyes
DuncanWaring :" how do seeds “in the wild” get dry before winter hits? "

Generally, annuals don't make it if exposed to wet and freezing temps, except in compost piles, or naturally occurring "micro-climates".
Compost as it breaks down releases a warming gas, especially if nitrogen is present.
Natural occurring "micro-climates" exist near heat sinks, sandy soils, southern (sun exposure) walls, stone walls (warm mass),
or where there is protection from winds, or covered by leaves in the fall.

27 posted on 08/26/2016 7:19:08 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: left that other site
left that other site :" The bees are loving them, so pollination is happening! :-) "

Glad to hear that !
Some folks here, who overwinter crops indoors, will get 'Q-tips' to collect the pollen from the male flowers now, put the pollen laden 'Q-tips' in the freezer in a baggie,
and then use the 'Q-tips' to pollinate crops indoors during the winter.
The male pollen remains viable during the freezing.
Some people plant flowers just to encourage pollenaters to visit their gardens throughout the year.

28 posted on 08/26/2016 7:28:06 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Yep...lots of big fat furry bumblebees.

I planted echanacia, which also attracts pollinators.

Thanks for the “tips” LOL! :-)


29 posted on 08/26/2016 7:37:02 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: greeneyes
A friend invited us up to pick all we wanted of his Gravenstein Apples early this week and Lady Bender is cooking them down for apple sauce. We brought home about 12 gallons …

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30 posted on 08/26/2016 7:46:39 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: left that other site

Planted some marigold seeds in May that came up and are still going strong. They do well in any weather even 90 degree heat spells.


31 posted on 08/26/2016 7:52:17 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Hillary will govern like Obama surrogate PA Gov.Wolfe, taking PA to the bottom, making life worse.)
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To: Ciexyz

Yeah...Marigolds are MAGICAL! :-)


32 posted on 08/26/2016 7:58:41 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: greeneyes; All
We went to the County Fair on Wednesday and I took a few photos…

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33 posted on 08/26/2016 7:59:04 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: greeneyes

Only a few russets left to die completely & be dug; the German Butterballs are starting to wind down..

Still a few onions that haven’t fallen over and given up the ghost.

Beans are still producing; 5 more pints on the stove as I type; that makes 28 pints plain, and 8 dilled. The shelling beans are finally loading up & beginning to mature.

Tomatoes are finally coming into their own, except the Rutgers; it only has finally set 3 or 4 little ones so far.

A few days ago, I tilled in another couple of swaths of chicken & rabbit manure/litter. Today, I planted the bag of onion sets I had saved from this Spring, to over-Winter. Soon, I’ll get around to putting in the garlic there, too.

Acorn Squash vines are loaded, and the cocozelle are still producing, as are the cukes.

Chard has finally gotten a cooling incentive to grow, as has some volunteer lettuce and a Napa type cabbage.

Apple crop will be very disappointing, but at least we’ll get wild plums this coming week.


34 posted on 08/26/2016 8:41:45 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!�)
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To: greeneyes

My flint corn is starting to dry down. One disadvantage of growing the older varieties is that they don’t all ripen at once. I’m having to judge ripeness by the ear instead of harvesting the whole patch in one go. That’s ok, it just means it’ll take longer. This year is an expansion year, so most of the corn is marked for seed, but there should be enough to cook up for a taste test.

Next year I definitely need to treat with a fungicide. I lost about 20% of my corn to either corn smut or mold, sometimes both. I’ll be researching non-toxic preventatives this winter.

The dry bean I tested this year, Beefy Resilient Grex, has exceeded expectations in terms of productivity. I haven’t cooked any up yet, but this is the closest thing I’ve found to an everbearing bean plant! Usually when the first beans ripen, the whole plant shuts down, but these just keep pumping more out, it’s amazing! And they’re colorful, too. About half are black, but the other half are every possible color. Green, yellow, brown, red, purple, pink, speckled, striped, mottled, you name it. It’s like Joseph And The Amazing Technicolored Bean Plant! I’ve got about 4 pounds shelled already, and they’re growing faster than I can pick. Definitely going on my list for survival plants!

The strawberries have slowed down some, but they’re still coming. Just a few per picking now. The blackberries I planted have about 8 berries ripening already. Birds got most of the elderberries, but I picked enough to make my elixir.

Speaking of elixirs, chocolate mint makes a great mojito. Just saying.

Still behind on getting the hayfield cut and tilled. I’m hoping to have help with that this weekend.

Oh, and Dad’s garden has more tomatoes than he knows what to do with, so I’ve canned about 20 quarts so far. With several more batches to go!


35 posted on 08/26/2016 9:02:28 PM PDT by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Depends somewhat on the variety, but even just storing them in the corner of my bedroom, I have 90% germination on seeds more than 10 years old. Go for it.


36 posted on 08/26/2016 9:04:44 PM PDT by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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To: DuncanWaring; Diana in Wisconsin

Some seeds actually have better germination if the seed coat is cracked by freezing. Just FYI.

In general, if it’ll sprout in the compost bin, it can handle more abuse than most people think. Tomatoes and squash are both notorious for that.


37 posted on 08/26/2016 9:08:47 PM PDT by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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To: tubebender

Nice!!!


38 posted on 08/26/2016 9:09:45 PM PDT by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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To: tubebender

4th photo down looks like you’re teasing the poor chickens!


39 posted on 08/26/2016 9:10:49 PM PDT by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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To: tubebender
nice pics.....keep em coming...

as for my garden, tomato plants are drying and dying...they did produce some tomatoes, all smallish...those were in containers and they made beautiful green plants but seem to wimp out soon...

the few tomatoes in the garden boxes are hanging on, tomatoes a little larger....

next year I'm going to do more deliberate plant shopping...beefsteak for sure...

I've harvested some Anaheim, some potatoes, some small onions, and today picked my hops and drying them as we speak...my little dehydrator can't do so many at once so I have 4 cookie trays with them on too....at least for tonite...tomorrow I might run to goodwill and get another dehydrator (I foolishly donated my other since the one I have now is better...lol)

I do have some bell peppers coming along, lots of zucchini and some yellow zucchini too...one big hubbard and a few smaller squash plus two trombones but is there enough time left in the summer?....who knows...

40 posted on 08/26/2016 9:19:24 PM PDT by cherry
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