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Game of Thrones Finale (Vanity - chime in)
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Posted on 06/29/2016 7:04:29 AM PDT by Enterprise

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To: yuleeyahoo; Boogieman

Martyrs suck, especially when they tell everyone who’ll listen they’re willing to die for their cause, and then decide they’ll bring everyone else with them.


161 posted on 06/29/2016 1:14:51 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: Read Write Repeat
Dany did not at all intentionally sacrifice her child. At first she thought she was the one who had to be the blood sacrifice, then it seemed obvious that it was the horse whose throat Mirri Maz Duur slit. Dany did all she could to save The Stallion Who Mounts the World.

Cersei is another story. I think you are correct in that, by the time she was blowing up half of King's Landing, she knew Tommen was going to die anyway because of the prophecy. She just did what was necessary to sit on the Iron Throne.
162 posted on 06/29/2016 1:26:26 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Read Write Repeat

Dude, I watched the scene. You can’t wish cast a major piece of equipment into a show that has one season left, which they are dividing into two.


163 posted on 06/29/2016 1:33:37 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: wardaddy

All I care about is The Hound and the dragons.

Everyone else can snuff it.

Tommen jumping cracked me up.


164 posted on 06/29/2016 1:43:03 PM PDT by Salamander (I Aim To Maim...)
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To: HamiltonJay; Mjreagan
I don’t understand why so many people leave out the most important revelation long term to the story... The parentage of John Snow.

I appreciate your bringing that up, I watched the scene but didn't understand its relevance.

The other noteworthy tidbit in the finale was the white raven arriving at Winterfell signaling that Winter is here.

As for next season the only predictions I'll make is that the dragons will make short work of the zombies from beyond the wall.

Also, could it be that Jon Snow is the Prince That Was Promised , and that is why the Red Witch was able to bring him back from death?

165 posted on 06/29/2016 1:43:50 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: wardaddy

And Sansa’s self-serving lie caused the first death of a wolf.

She can’t go gruesomely enough to satisfy me.

If Snow, Tyrion and Dany live, I’m okay with that.

They love critters.

Everyone else...meh.


166 posted on 06/29/2016 1:48:04 PM PDT by Salamander (I Aim To Maim...)
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To: drjimmy

With her husband dead, her kids were her only means of remaining “in power”.

With that end in mind, she “loved” them.

She let Bran be thrown off the castle and then tried to finish him off, to protect her claim to the throne.

She fried the Sept after being told to go stand with the other riff raff, instead of by the boy king’s side, as was her usual place of status.

She is bloodless and loves/serves only herself.


167 posted on 06/29/2016 1:57:25 PM PDT by Salamander (I Aim To Maim...)
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To: Salamander
She is bloodless and loves/serves only herself.

And I think Jaimie finally realizes that.
168 posted on 06/29/2016 2:07:52 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Enterprise

I just got through binge watching the first season...and Net Flix doesn’t have it! So, I’ll probably buy more. I’m hooked.


169 posted on 06/29/2016 2:10:54 PM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: Read Write Repeat

That’s a different horn from the Horn of Joramun/Horn of Winter. The same horn was also found with the dragonglass in the books, only it was found by Jon Snow instead of Sam.


170 posted on 06/29/2016 2:25:41 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: mac_truck
Pretty good explanation at the following link:

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/26/12029644/winds-of-winter-recap-jon-snow-parents

171 posted on 06/29/2016 2:44:44 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: yuleeyahoo

Every example you mention is basically military commanders handing out summary executions for traitors, outlaws, or deserters during wartime. That wouldn’t be unusual even in our modern day, and it’s certainly not comparable to the type of criminal prosecutions that the High Sparrow is undertaking.

“The trials conducted by the elites had preordained outcomes for people who were not guilty of the crimes they were accused of.”

Certainly they have tried to rig trials in their favor, no doubt, but in every case, the accused still received a trial, had the opportunity to speak in their defense, call witnesses, and failing all else, appeal to trial by combat to receive a fairer outcome. The High Sparrow has systematically eliminated all of those options for his prisoners. So if you think the trials conducted by the elites were unjust, unless you say the conduct of the High Sparrow is even more unjust, you’re being hypocritical.

“The people who were to be tried by the Sparrow were guilty of the crimes they were charged with.”

So what? Guilty people don’t deserve legal protections?


172 posted on 06/29/2016 2:58:19 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

“Arguing about whether or not he was right or wrong, is a mote point.”

If the people of Westeros won’t learn from the mistakes of the past, they are doomed to repeat them!


173 posted on 06/29/2016 2:59:17 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Darnright

True, but I think he’s probably okay with giving that up now that he’s the new “three eyed raven”. He never wanted to be a lord in a castle anyway.


174 posted on 06/29/2016 3:00:07 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: drjimmy

>I think you are correct in that, by the time she was blowing up half of King’s Landing, she knew Tommen was going to die anyway because of the prophecy.<

Tommen is the one who cut off Cersei’s ability to have a trial by combat. Who is to say she made a calculated decision to sacrifice him in order to keep him from betraying her in the future. He could have ordered her executed for the murder of his wife and the rest of the casualties.


175 posted on 06/29/2016 3:18:34 PM PDT by Darnright (When a system acts illegally, its dictates are not the law of the land, they are the law of force)
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To: Salamander

Sal, do you not think Bran loves his animals? If not for Summer, he could not have run. And, that crow he wargs into has given him so much. Would he not have love for it?

Just sayin’. (c;


176 posted on 06/29/2016 3:23:46 PM PDT by Darnright (When a system acts illegally, its dictates are not the law of the land, they are the law of force)
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To: Boogieman

You continue to view this through the prism of contemporary Western culture instead of the Westerosi prism. They are not the same.

There is obviously no presumption of innocence, no juries, no lawyers, no appeals, civil rights and apparently few legal protections for the accused.

Loras and Margaery were allowed to go free after they admitted their crimes. Cersei was allowed to go home to await trial for regicide after she admitted incest with Lancel. These were certainly better outcomes than what Ned and Tyrion received.


177 posted on 06/29/2016 3:47:59 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: drjimmy

And his lifespan probably just got halved.


178 posted on 06/29/2016 7:42:16 PM PDT by Salamander (I Aim To Maim...)
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To: Darnright

Yeah, probably.

But his story line has been infinitely dull.

I cracked up when the Big Hodor Reveal happened.

Ho’ de door”

LMAO.

Oh grief, what a plot device.

Looking forward to Hodor’s Whitewalker return.

That should cause a whole bunch of emotional conflict.


179 posted on 06/29/2016 7:46:12 PM PDT by Salamander (I Aim To Maim...)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

The Bran Orchestrating All Reality Theory sounds like the Bobby In The Shower scene from Dallas.

If it turns out that way, I will be royally p*ssed.


180 posted on 06/29/2016 7:57:58 PM PDT by Salamander (I Aim To Maim...)
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