Posted on 06/29/2016 7:04:29 AM PDT by Enterprise
“I am pointing out that this is an accepted practice for crime and punishment in the Game of Thrones universe.”
Except it really isn’t. Imprisonment sure, but beatings and starvation? Nope. That’s practiced by outlaws like the Bloody Mummers and Ramsay Snow, not by legitimate authorities.
Even imprisonment is only normally done pending a trial, which happens swiftly in this universe. The Sparrow, on the other hand, imprisons people and tortures them until they confess, and only then do they get a trial. Of course, since a confession has been coerced, the results of the trial are a foregone conclusions, so his trials are kangaroo courts.
How will Euron do that with very few trees on the Iron Islands?
The largest fleet the world will ever know is currently Dany’s sailing to Westeros. Thanks Uncle Euron! :)
The King (Queen?) Slayer?
The Hound has done a lot of awful things, but for the most part he has been honest about what he has done. And in his own way, he has even done some good. One of the best episodes what the scene in the restaurant about “chickens.” And I have come to like him too.
Watch the Kingsmoot scene again.
Nothing I have seen in the series suggests to me that any of the women coming into power have selfishly sacrificed their children for their own gain. And I have not suggested that any of them have done so. Cersi did not want ANY of her children to die. Daenerys sure as hell did NOT want her son to die. Sansa and Yara will come into power eventually, but as yet, neither of them have children. Margaery would not have wanted to sacrifice a child for personal gain. The only one who was in to child sacrifice was the Red Witch, but it was someone else's child which was sacrificed.
Thanks. It makes my head hurt though.
I just watched the kings moot again and still no horn. If the show were going to use it (they might) they would have featured it a bit more prominently. My theory is that realizing his Brice has beat him to Dany he will ally with Cersi.
Hhmm, immediate executions by Ned Stark and John Snow.
Others who received summary execution with no trial: Beric Dunderion hung by Lanisters, and Mance Rayder burned at the stake by Stannis. Doesn’t seem that trials are a priority for the elites.
The trials conducted by the elites had preordained outcomes for people who were not guilty of the crimes they were accused of.
The people who were to be tried by the Sparrow were guilty of the crimes they were charged with.
In the show, Sam finds a horn in the dragonglass/obsidian cache north of the wall. Ygritte also tells Jon Snow about Mance digging around everywhere, I think it was Season 2 or 3, so I believe that nugget isn’t book-only.
Well in Cercei’s case it was incest and Regicide. Small things to be sure. Her cousin Lancel confessed all when he turned to the Church.
Cersei turned Loras in for practicing homosexualty.
Margaery perjured herself in Loras’s official inquest.
The High Septon is dead.
Arguing about whether or not he was right or wrong, is a mote point.
Or, to quote someone we all know and dislike,
"What difference, at this point, does it make!"
:-)
A: Come in.
M: Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
A: I told you once.
M: No you haven’t.
A: Yes I have.
M: When?
A: Just now.
M: No you didn’t.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn’t
A: I did!
M: You didn’t!
A: I’m telling you I did!
M: You did not!!
A: Oh, I’m sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
M: Oh, just the five minutes.
A: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
M: You most certainly did not.
A: Look, let’s get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
M: No you did not.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn’t.
A: Yes I did.
:-)
I like your question mark over the Blackfish. He didn’t die on screen, and Walder Frey brought his name up in talking with Jaimie. It may just be a red herring (pun intended), but the Blackfish may not be so dead after all.
Dany instructed Jorah Mormont to bring her inside the tent. At the time, there were plenty of Dothraki women around her who a) gave birth themselves, b) attended a birth because the Dothraki raped pretty much anything, or c) had a mother who told them about it. Repeatedly. In detail. Stressing the hours upon hours of pain and suffering just to birth them.
And even after Dany witnesses Khal Drogo not recovering from his wound under the “care” of Marwyn’s trained mage putting on a shadow show for a bunch of ignorant and superstitious Mongols, er, Dothraki — and all those other women around — Dany’s first thought is go back to the same mage who didn’t successfully heal her husband.
Then she’s told afterwards that she didn’t birth a baby, but a deformed stillborn half-dragon. Good thing the mage/abortionist was there! /s
No, Dany’s constant poor decisions led her to sacrificing her child. She knew full well what was going to happen because the mage told her to stay out of the tent. She’s a loose cannon who will always default to destruction first unless she’s guided otherwise. And someone needs to have the right temperament to be that kind of advisor.
Even though Cersei was given a specific “prophecy” by Maggy the Frog, she still put her children in danger and designed situations to risk her children for her own personal gain. Another long litany of bad decisions that got her children killed so she could be queen. They were her true rivals to the throne. We’re told time and time again about how much she loves her children but none of her actions match that at all.
In this world, we call them Third Wave Feminists.
You don’t have to see the horn to witness the effects.
Boring television/writing: “Here’s this awesome horn which will mind control everyone and get them to do what I say when you, Person I Have No Use For or Maybe Need Out of my Way, blow it for me and proceed to fall over dead afterwards” followed by a long, knowing gaze into the camera.
Watch the scene again, and pay attention to it. :)
Daenerys was trying to bring Khal Drogo back to life, and she didn't understand clearly that it would cost her the life of her baby. Neither she nor Cersi sacrificed their children in pursuit of power.
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