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Game of Thrones Finale (Vanity - chime in)
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Posted on 06/29/2016 7:04:29 AM PDT by Enterprise

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To: AuntB

I didn’t start watching until the last episode in year three. So I had to binge watch the first three seasons, and I read the books. Welcome to the throne room!


181 posted on 06/29/2016 9:17:41 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

Every time one of Cersei’s kids died — and her own machinations and poor decisions led to each one — Cersei doubled down on ruthless power mongering.

Your description of Dany’s surface plot makes George R. R. Martin a piss poor writer, which he most definitely isn’t.


182 posted on 06/29/2016 11:44:54 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: drjimmy

Dany absolutely makes piss poor decisions no matter what the situation.

She went into a tent to seek aid from a woman of a people the Dothraki pillaged, raped, and enslaved instead of seeking aid from the women traveling with her. The mage/”healer” most likely performed an abortion, as abortion is alluded or outright mentioned for other female characters, i.e. tansy tea.

This “girl power” thing is a false premise. There’s a huge difference between a strong female lead and advancing an agenda.


183 posted on 06/29/2016 11:57:27 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: FlipWilson

The TV version of the Kingsmoot was a simplified version of the book Kingsmoot, Victarion/Yara/Asha merger withstanding.

How would you cinematically demonstrate mind control? Unless your debate premise is Dragonbinder isn’t an enslavement/mind control device, I don’t see how anyone who read the books could justify a bunch of people nodding for Yara and then instantaneously supporting Euron.


184 posted on 06/30/2016 12:12:07 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: Read Write Repeat

Quote: “The TV version of the Kingsmoot was a simplified version of the book Kingsmoot, Victarion/Yara/Asha merger withstanding.”

I got that. I read the books and realized fairly quickly that the show was carving off vast amounts of the books and leaving them on the floor. So far, and I say so far, the horn has been left out.

I watched the Kingsmoot again and again and the logical conclusion to reach from the SHOW is this. Euron wins (he doesn’t in the books, by the way) because he is the only credible male with a claim that comes forward. He also makes a good case for himself while ridiculing Theon. At the end of the scene he says that his neice and nephew stealing ships won’t help them. He says this not because of some unseen, unintroduced horn but because he has just ordered (on screen, part of the scene) a massive fleet to be built.

I have no doubt that Euron will turn up. Perhaps with the horn (that needs to be introduced and somewhat explained next season). My guess is that he will 1)intercept Dany at sea; or 2)realize he was too late and ally with her enemies to cause havoc.


185 posted on 06/30/2016 7:03:44 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson

The show reflected the same actions as the book. You don’t “see” Euron killing his brother, but that’s what the show displayed. In the book, you “see” what Dragonbinder’s effects are, and in the show, you “see” the same effects but not the actual item.

My premise is Euron’s campaign speech in the show was so incredibly dumb (”I killed my bro! I’m your king!”), there’s no other rational explanation besides Dragonbinder’s usage to achieve that result.

As for Euron, his show geopolitical position is incredibly weak. The only prediction I can offer is history repeats itself.


186 posted on 06/30/2016 9:57:18 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: Read Write Repeat

Quote: “The show reflected the same actions as the book. You don’t “see” Euron killing his brother, but that’s what the show displayed. In the book, you “see” what Dragonbinder’s effects are, and in the show, you “see” the same effects but not the actual item.”

Umm, they showed Euron throwing his brother off the bridge. So yes, you do see it.


187 posted on 06/30/2016 10:17:17 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

He finds the way to defeat the white walkers for Jon.


188 posted on 06/30/2016 11:48:57 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

His true reward. Tee hee.


189 posted on 06/30/2016 11:51:47 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: mac_truck

Jon came back from his own “magic or destiny.” The witch was as surprised as everyone else that Jon came back to life. There is something about Ned’s bro being alive to save Bran from white walkers and Jon.


190 posted on 06/30/2016 12:05:24 PM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Darnright

Yes, but do not know if his supernatural visions and mission will preclude him from becoming heir. Sansa, her unborn son with aunt Ayia will eventually rule. Scouring out all bad traits Bolton in the lad. His true spirit will be a Stark.


191 posted on 06/30/2016 1:00:27 PM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: FlipWilson

You don’t “see” Euron killing the current occupant of the Seastone Chair in the book, only in the show. Apologies if that wasn’t clear.


192 posted on 06/30/2016 2:05:17 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: Lopeover

Littlefinger isn’t too happy about no reward. Whatever he’s plotting, he doesn’t realize that the Starks will soon have Arya back with the training of the Faceless Men.


193 posted on 06/30/2016 2:09:06 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Enterprise; martin_fierro; All

I guess I’m not very observant, but I just realized that not all ships in the final scene had Targaryen sails.

There were also ships in that scene with sails that had the colors of Greyjoy, Dorne, and Tyrell. The Dornish sails are fairly easy to spot, but the Tyrell sails (green with a large, gold flower) go by fairly quickly.


194 posted on 07/01/2016 2:36:52 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Sansa’s playing LF like a fiddle.


195 posted on 07/01/2016 3:43:04 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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