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Pressure mounts against Rule 41 – the FBI's power to hack Tor, VPN users on sight (Privacy Alert)
The Register ^ | Jun 21, 2016 | Iain Thomson

Posted on 06/22/2016 10:24:06 AM PDT by dayglored

The campaign against Rule 41 – which will give cops and Feds in America the power to hack people's computers around the world – has kicked up a gear.

Leaders of the US House of Representatives and Senate got a letter today urging them to block the rule change before it becomes permanent in December.

The proposed legislative tweak, quietly passed by an obscure committee and approved by the Supreme Court in April, would allow a US magistrate judge to grant law enforcement access to any stored data on a computer, phone, or any storage device around the world that was suspected of being "related" to a crime.

The amendment would also grant automatic legal approval for police hacking against those who use technology to conceal "the district where the media or information is located." Tor and VPN users, that means you: by accessing information remotely through an anonymizing or proxy service that hides where the information is truly stored, you'll be fair game to the authorities.

On Tuesday, 50 organizations – including Google, PayPal, the TOR Project, Data Foundry, the rather unfortunately named Hide My Ass VPN, the ACLU and the EFF – urged Congress to block the Rule 41 change, saying it was an undemocratic decision and an issue that elected representatives needed to debate rather than usher in via the backdoor.

"The rule changes attempt to sidestep the legislative process by using a process designed for procedural rules to expand investigatory powers," the open letter reads.

"The changes to Rule 41 will disproportionately undermine the privacy of those who have done the most to protect it. Specifically, the proposal would allow warrants for remote hacking in cases where privacy protective technologies obscure the location of a computer."

Congress didn't vote on Rule 41; the Department of Justice got judicial approval instead, and now Congress has until December 1 to pass legislation that would amend, or block, the rule change. Last month Senators Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Rand Paul (R-KY) tabled the Stopping Mass Hacking (SMH) Act to do just this.

"Like so many other proposals this amendment is a lose-lose: It won’t make our country safer, but it will take away crucial checks and balances that protect our freedom,” Wyden said. "If this proposal passes, FBI agents will be able to demand the records of what websites you look at online, who you email and chat with, and your text message logs, with no judicial oversight whatsoever."

Wyden pointed out that the FBI already has the powers for this kind of access under the Patriot Act, after getting judicial approval. In the event of a security emergency this can be granted weeks after the action by US courts who seldom turn down such applications.

"This isn’t about giving law-enforcement new tools, it’s about the FBI not wanting to do paperwork,” he told The Register in a statement.

The SMH legislation has bipartisan support, but with the US government currently involved in the election cycle it's going to come down to getting Congress motivated. To add pressure the Electronic Frontier Foundation has released embeddable code for website operators to add that makes it easier to petition Congress on its noglobalwarrants.org website.

But it's going to take a lot of public support to get this on legislator's radar. With the US locked in one of the most bizarre election in the country's history (the 1836 contest might give it a run for its money) getting congressional attention to something so seemingly mundane – yet so vital – could be difficult.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; fbi; internet; newyork; overreach; privacy; rule41; tor; trump; vpn; windowspinglist
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Sounds like this one might be worth some screaming about.
1 posted on 06/22/2016 10:24:06 AM PDT by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; ...
Big Brother Again, Big Time ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 06/22/2016 10:25:03 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

This is exceptionally bad. I had VPN setup to access my home network, and every major corporation in the world has VPN for their workers. The idea that law enforcement can legally hack into anyone’s network just by virtue of running a VPN is beyond dangerous, it’s criminal.


3 posted on 06/22/2016 10:35:57 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: dayglored

Ryan will do nothing about this.
I wonder how he would feel if Voters dug thru his personal files with the same vigor he wants the DOJ to dig thru our files.


4 posted on 06/22/2016 10:36:49 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: dayglored

BUMP AND LIGHT UP THE DC SWITCHBOARD PING!

*US gov’t spying is going to further chase int’l business / jobs away from the US due to privacy / data sovereignty concerns.
NSA data surveillance Snowden revelations has created a BIG mess of US - foreign data transaction law, and cost US businesses many millions in lost sales.
US gov’t idiots consistently fail to take action against terrorists that they have ample information on.

RE: “Sounds like this one might be worth some screaming about.”


5 posted on 06/22/2016 10:42:37 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: dayglored

And, yes, once again no one in authority gives a rat’s ass about the provisions of the Bill of Rights.


6 posted on 06/22/2016 10:46:16 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: dayglored
Sounds like this one might be worth some screaming about.

Only Screaming? I think this sounds more appropriate.

7 posted on 06/22/2016 10:50:42 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Jack Hammer
And, yes, once again no one in authority gives a rat’s ass about the provisions of the Bill of Rights.

I suspect they won't until ignoring those provisions results in their loss of job (and entitlements; i.e. retirement) and/or life.

8 posted on 06/22/2016 10:52:22 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: dayglored

I’ve decided the only solution to stop these bastards is to dismantle all the existing intelligence agencies and pass legislation that any new agencies will operate under an elected civilian review board.

Congressional oversight is useless, and appointed civilian oversight is just in the pockets of whoever appointed them. We need dedicated representatives who are solely accountable to the people, and whose only job is to make sure intelligence agencies are not violating the bill of rights.


9 posted on 06/22/2016 10:58:06 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: dayglored

Need to go to court and have the new “rule” struck down as an unconstitutional “rule” - direct violation of the 4th Amendment.


10 posted on 06/22/2016 11:02:58 AM PDT by microgood
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To: dayglored

If you’re not doing anything wrong you should have nothing to worry about.


11 posted on 06/22/2016 11:04:15 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: dayglored

Bump for later.


12 posted on 06/22/2016 11:04:19 AM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. FUBO.)
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To: dayglored
dayglored :" The campaign against Rule 41 – which will give cops and Feds in America the power to hack people's computers around the world – has kicked up a gear. "

The proposed legislation would give the FED.gov a license to commit a crime - namely : Burlary , Breaking and Electronicly Entering,
While this may seem innocuous, it gives them authority not just to 'snoop and poop'
it also affords them the opportunity to plant evidence of wrong-doing to further their case against someone, without thier knowldge or consent.
You may feel that there is nothing wrong with this action in order to keep us safe , what happens when there is a change in administration ?
This electronic history could provide false documentation for a 'purge' of those who don't think like the current administration.
This request from an administration that already doesn't know the meaning of 'staying within the letter of the law', and has been cited for intolerable "Overreach" !!

13 posted on 06/22/2016 11:12:35 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: dayglored

I wonder how many of the privacy intrusions we would be asked to put up with if we didn’t have Muslims in the U.S.

Are these privacy breaches and having our daughters felt up at airports and the billions spent on law enforcement and the loss of heritage worth the benefit of being able to proudly claim we are “multi-cultural”?


14 posted on 06/22/2016 11:16:07 AM PDT by nitzy (We could have had a serious contender)
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To: dayglored

bkmk


15 posted on 06/22/2016 11:28:03 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Swordmaker; ThunderSleeps; ShadowAce

Your tech pings would seem to be appropriate here.... TIA


16 posted on 06/22/2016 11:43:50 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
> it also affords them the opportunity to plant evidence of wrong-doing to further their case against someone, without thier knowldge or consent.

Yep, this is a bad one for sure.

17 posted on 06/22/2016 11:45:47 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 5thGenTexan; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; ...
Computer privacy issues again with Rule 41, a judicially approved rule that allows the FBI to hack any computer without judicial over sight. Congress has a limited time to derail this rule. Write your Congress Critter to tell them you want your privacy protected under the Constitution, not by a bureaucrat! — PING!


Everybody v. DOJ and Privacy
Ping!

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If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me

18 posted on 06/22/2016 2:42:44 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: dayglored

Wow. Thanks for the info


19 posted on 06/22/2016 2:46:49 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: dayglored
Bump!

It sounds like the government KNOWS that virtually all of our computers have wide-open back doors for government spying.

And they want to SEIZE them just for trying to maintain anonymity!

20 posted on 06/22/2016 8:35:56 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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