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Indus Valley civilisation may pre-date Egypt's pharoahs: Ancient society is 2,500 years older [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | June 2, 2016 | Sarah Griffiths

Posted on 06/02/2016 6:41:38 AM PDT by C19fan

With its impressive pyramids and complex rules, Ancient Egypt may seem to many the epitome of an advanced early civilisation. But new evidence suggests the Indus Valley Civilisation in India and Pakistan, famed for its well-planned cities and impressive crafts, predates Egypt and Mesopotamia. Already considered one of the oldest civilisations in the world, experts now believe it is 8,000 years old - 2,500 years older than previously thought.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; antediluvian; archaeology; archeology; bhirrana; bronzeage; egypt; godsgravesglyphs; harappan; india; indusvalley; mesopotamia; pakistan
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Unfortunately their language has not been deciphered.
1 posted on 06/02/2016 6:41:38 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan; SunkenCiv

And there oldest settlements were submerged at the end of the last ice age.


2 posted on 06/02/2016 6:48:43 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

THEIR


3 posted on 06/02/2016 6:49:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: C19fan

Funny thing: in a semi-arid or arid climate humble mud bricks make a dandy construction material but where there are annual monsoons ... not so much. The subcontinent may have simply had a reason to more generally adopt stone construction earlier. Even when dealing with Egyptian civilization most of everything is still buried, so who knows what is under the Sahara?


4 posted on 06/02/2016 6:54:13 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: C19fan

Underwater structures offshore speculatively increases the date to pre-ice age, at least 12,000 years.


5 posted on 06/02/2016 6:56:26 AM PDT by BiggerTigger
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To: C19fan

I laughed at the last two bullet points of the intro to the article:

They now believe the civilisation is around 8,000 years old,

and,

It is thought climate change may not have destroyed the civilisation

Sooo... the civilization dates to about 6,000 BC and climate change didn’t destroy it.

Ahem, if 40 straight days and nights of rain resulting in a big flood isn’t climate change, what is?


6 posted on 06/02/2016 6:57:51 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: Rurudyne

The monsoon doesn’t impact the Indus valley all that much, particularly compared to some of the other regions of the Indian subcontinent.


7 posted on 06/02/2016 6:57:54 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: BiggerTigger

Yep. And they are saying that these sites may have been inhabited for thousands of years before that.

Meanwhile, reckless spending continues because the US is too big to fail....


8 posted on 06/02/2016 6:58:54 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: C19fan

Interesting post. Something to follow.


9 posted on 06/02/2016 7:05:21 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Little Pig

“All that much” might still cause mud brick problems. I’m not dissing the achievements of the Indus Valley, just observing that their motivations for building materials might be different.


10 posted on 06/02/2016 7:07:09 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: C19fan
Maybe they were quite successful. Then they got attacked and overrun by Muslims.

Fast forward and its the English colonizing India and not vice-versa.

Something that liberals should consider when dealing with the Islamic world.

11 posted on 06/02/2016 7:12:47 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: C19fan

Evidence of upper paleolithic civilization located in coastal areas during the last glacial period between 24,500 BCE and an abrupt rise in sea level 12,500 BCE is submerged, so clearly such civilization does not exist.


12 posted on 06/02/2016 7:21:17 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: BiggerTigger

“Underwater structures offshore speculatively increases the date to pre-ice age, at least 12,000 years.”

I think there is ample evidence that civilizations flourished for as much as 30,000 years ago. Otherwise how did people get to Australia? At no time in human evolution has Australia not been an island.

To put this into perspective, the date is 2016. We, Western civilization, essentially date our civilization from the time of Christ. (When I was in school it was BC for Before Christ and AD for After Death. But as government tries to erase Christianity it has become BCE for before the common era.) So people who built technology and traveled huge distances, all things we consider civilized, lived for at least 15 times longer than our current civilization.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the actual date of farming and technology gets pushed ever backwards to include predecessor species.


13 posted on 06/02/2016 7:33:32 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: C19fan

The civilizations were founded by “Ancient Aliens” aka Bigfoot.(I could not resist.)


14 posted on 06/02/2016 7:33:59 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: C19fan

Well, the RigVeda does have some almost sci-fi stuff in it.


15 posted on 06/02/2016 7:34:44 AM PDT by struggle (The)
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To: C19fan

...DRINK..Y..OUR..OVA..×÷=%INE..

Mystery text from hieroglyphic text. Probably will never know it’s true significance. :|


16 posted on 06/02/2016 7:43:58 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Then you get the things scientists don’t like to explain, like iron bammers and iron pots imbedded in 3mil yo coal seams, fossilized human footprints alongside those of dinosaurs, signs of pneumatic tools on stone blocks cut for Egyptian monuments, Babylonian batteries, pre-ice age navies mapping Antarctica’s landmass before it had any ice, Egyptian mummies testing positive for Peruvian cocaine, etc. etc. etc.!!

Was it the atomic bomb that made us treat scientists like all-knowing gods? They certainly never had the reputation before that time.


17 posted on 06/02/2016 8:07:40 AM PDT by BiggerTigger
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To: BiggerTigger

bammers/hammers


18 posted on 06/02/2016 8:08:30 AM PDT by BiggerTigger
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To: epluribus_2

No doubt found inside a broken pottery vessel with inscription “&al^ph” ...


19 posted on 06/02/2016 8:09:10 AM PDT by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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To: C19fan

Interesting notion.

Egypt gets all the publicity because of the gold and the statues and the pyramids and the mummies, but the Indus Civilization may have been home to a far more ancient and wiser people.


20 posted on 06/02/2016 8:16:00 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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