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Ted Cruz Says Fight Not Over with GOP Convention Nearing (Wants to CANCEL Open Primaries )
Christian Post ^ | May 16, 2016 | LIEZL DUNUAN

Posted on 05/17/2016 4:08:52 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Ted Cruz and his allies are preparing for the coming National GOP Convention. According to NBC News, Cruz who recently attended a GOP convention in Texas told his supporters that the days ahead will be "challenging" for the Republican Party. He, however, expressed hope that those who remain loyal to him and the party "will be the remnant, will be the core of pulling this country back from the abyss."

Aside from this pronouncement, [he] has remained mum about whether he will throw his support for presumptive nominee Donald Trump. According to the NBC report, the support of Cruz and his allies in Texas is needed by Trump if he is squaring off with Democratic Presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for the presidential elections. A Texan party elder, Steve Munisteri said that "Ted Cruz has led a national movement, a conservative movement. We certainly need solid conservatives to be behind our nominee [Trump.]"

... Cruz and his allies in the Republican Party are EYEING TO CONTINUE THEIR FIGHT TO RUN THE PARTY. Despite his failure to win over Trump, ... he is still hoping that when he attends the National Convention,... he will be able to bring about key changes in how the party governs itself and picks its presidential nominee. Aside from changes in rules, the party will also be working out its "official policy platform" as well as "determine how much power the RNC has to make new rules of its own."

>>The key discussion points, which will also be the likely flash points during the convention, will include CLOSED PRIMARIES. THIS MEANS DOING AWAY WITH OPEN PRIMARIES AND THE "CONSCIENCE CLAUSE," which will RELEASE CONSERVATIVE DELEGATES FROM SUPPORTING THE PRESUMPTIVE DELEGATE, should that delegate represent views that contradict theirs or the party.

(Capitalization for FR emphasis)

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To: TexasGator

‘One of his volunteers tweeted a CNN story ...’

This was the spin until the voicemails surfaced. Then it was established that the Cruz camp had called all the caucus locations and stated as fact that Carson had “suspended his campaign.” CNN never reported that; it was a lie.


281 posted on 05/18/2016 6:50:09 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Eliminating open primaries isn’t necessarily a bad thing - as long as they are replaced with closed primaries where only registered republicans can vote.

However, the “conscience clause” is nothing less than removing the voice of the people, just in case it goes against the will of the party. If bound delegates can unbind themselves, then the party deserves to die, and the party “leaders” deserve to politically wither.


282 posted on 05/18/2016 7:00:12 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Carson’s wife was present at a caucus location. It was announced that her husband was suspending his campaign. Ms. Carson quickly corrected the record.

Carson won that caucus. If you doubt it, look it up. The events are well documented.


283 posted on 05/18/2016 7:04:19 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Grampa Dave

Rafael can file some paperwork and be eligible for the next national election in 2020.

Prime Minister Cruz. Has a nice ring to it.

Oh Canada!


284 posted on 05/18/2016 7:29:57 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: MortMan

I agree on point 2. Disagree on point 1.

2) the “conscience clause” is nothing less than removing the voice of the people -— yes, it’s all subject to interpretation. It’s completely Subjective - based on personal opinion. No need for an election.

1) Demographics are NOT in our favor. Many states have larger Independents registered than republicans. Republicans are being marginalized and need the Indy vote. We can’t win without it. Many Indys are very conservative and ticked off republicans that are sick of being repeatedly fooled in their home state or on the national level. Do not discount them.

20+ states have Open Primaries. It is a state’s issue and it’s their choice. South Carolina is a great example since they are so early in the process. It is a diverse state demographically and boasts a strong republican turnout. South Carolina has picked the winning R nominee correctly for the past 40 years, but once (Newt rather than Mitt-’12).

If the Republican party was hell-bent on cheating/stealing Trump out of this nomination, I’d predict that millions of voters would have cancelled their life-long republican registrations and became independents. Myself included.


285 posted on 05/18/2016 7:47:19 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: stevem
If I understand the concept of the closed primary, I agree with him.

You're not allowed to agree with the Evil Ted Cruz. Ever. About anything. Anyone who agrees with the Evil Ted Cruz, ever, about anything, must be destroyed. DOWN WITH EMMANUEL GOLDSTEIN TED CRUZ!!!

Who wants non Republicans picking Republican candidates?

In past elections, sane Republicans have recognized this as a legitimate problem. Demonicrats voting in Republican primaries may have given us Candidate Mitt Romney. Open primaries are stupid.

286 posted on 05/18/2016 7:54:13 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: RedWulf

Go back and read my comments again and you’ll see I was discussing the GOP nomination, not the general election. Sometimes I fail to state theobvious: cRuz would’ve been slaughtered in the general if he’d been allowed to steal enough delegates to “win” the GOP nomination.

Even further, it’s my opinion that he’ll get slaughtered in his Texas Senate reelection bid. Hopefully, someone will step up to primary him out of public office. All that’s needed is a warm body. He has betrayed his adopted home state by pretending to be what he is not. Some things are just not forgivable in the political arena.

Many, many Texans would vote for a Texas Horned Toad before we’d ever vote for that charlatan again.


287 posted on 05/18/2016 8:10:24 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: SaveFerris

This picture is a keeper!


288 posted on 05/18/2016 8:25:56 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Apparently his goal is to assure GOP losses from now till Kingdom Come.


289 posted on 05/18/2016 8:29:15 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: cornfedcowboy

Iowa was bad form on Cruz’s behalf, no doubt. But, he had a strong chance of doing well in Iowa. No great surprise.

But, Here’s a huge shocker that is not easily rectified.

Maine is the second most liberal state in New England, with Massachusetts being the worst. Which party operatives cheated for Ted Cruz in Maine to win that Closed Caucus?

Cruz was polling third, behind Kasich at 21%. Trump won neighboring NH with triple the vote to Cruz, Bush, Rubio, etc.

Twirling for freedom gets a cup of chowder dumped on your head in Maine, not more votes. Forms of Christianity that are viewed as extreme, are not an asset. It’s a very odd win, that’s only understood from a state that’s known for cheating through it’s former primary elections. Must have been a phone call from Kennebunkport, that is all that figures.

Maine, for some odd reason was not releasing county by county statistics - which is key to tracking voter fraud.

In 2012, 6000+ voted for Ron Paul, the same candidate who trashed Cruz as a darn fraud.

In 2016, 8,550 voted for Cruz. He’s polling 17- 27%. Suddenly he spikes up to 46% of the vote? More votes were cast for Ted than had ever been cast in Maine before! Must be the plaid shirts, eh?

In 2016, Trump is surging for days with record turn out of new voters and polling nationally near >45%. In Maine, the OVERvote reduces his popularity to 33%.

Behind the scenes, there are hands desperately pulling the strings to manipulate this election. Much more than we know.

Possibly, Ted may not have known they intended to guarantee him the state of Maine. But with his internal polling, he would have been very shocked to win Maine. Note, there’s no exit polling as well since the discrepancy would have been completely unexplainable.


290 posted on 05/18/2016 8:38:47 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: combat_boots

Cruz already proved to the brighter FReepers that he is a globalist a year ago The others will likely never get it.


291 posted on 05/18/2016 8:42:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
There would be no reason to hold a primary election if the delegates were not bound to the voters decision and the election results.

My suggestion is that CANDIDATES appoint their own delegates, rather than it being done by the party apparatchiks.

292 posted on 05/18/2016 8:45:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: NorthMountain

No read post # 285- Point 1)

Romney won by cheating Santorum & Paul in states like Maine & Colorado where they hold—

crooked little closed caucuses by a cadre of corrupted GOPe party insiders.

Santorum wins CO by >8% of vote = Romney wins CO w bulk of delegates!


293 posted on 05/18/2016 8:46:02 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: stevem

He is a man whose internal moral compass is Self, although he has managed to convince himself that his moral convictions and motivations originate from God, not from Self.

That’s the tricky thing about people who have narcissistic egotistical personality characteristics. If the person is driven by some “unmet need” or narcissistic injury experienced in childhood, that’s one thing. In fact, in today’s political climate, for the GOP at least, it may actually require a narcissist type of personality to withstand the liberal 4th Estate’s ‘torched earth’ policy with all things Republican.

A malignant narcissism that is fueled by internalized religious beliefs and convictions is an entirely different thing. It’s dangerous territory, mainly because this type of person can easily rationalize (to himself) anything he believes and any way he behaves, or misbehaves, as the case may be.

For anyone who doubts or doesn’t understand what I’ve said above, just do this one little mental exercise and you’ll see it: Picture a Donald Trump who is motivated by an internal spiritual belief system, one in which he thinks he’s The Chosen One who is here to save man from himself. Picture a Donald Trump who grew up with his father Fred telling him to ignore the naysayers because, by golly, Donald is “The Face of God”(Heidi quote).

Yuuge difference. :-)


294 posted on 05/18/2016 8:48:11 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: PapaBear3625

California Primary Election:

Trump has chosen his own loyal (hopefully) 172 delegates. For the record:

California Republican Party Chair – Senator Jim Brulte
Republican National Committeeman – Shawn Steel
Republican National Committeewoman – Linda Ackerman

Individual CD and At-Large delegates are chosen by the Presidential candidates.

Each delegate to the Republican National Convention shall use his or her best efforts at the convention for the party’s presidential nominee candidate from California to whom the delegate has pledged support until the person is nominated for the office of President of the United States by the convention, receives less than 10 percent of the votes for nomination by the convention, releases the delegate from his or her obligation, or until two convention nominating ballots have been taken. Thereafter, each delegate shall be free to vote as he or she chooses.... [California Elections Code Section 6461.(c)]


295 posted on 05/18/2016 8:51:40 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

agree


296 posted on 05/18/2016 9:33:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Here's a snip of a *much better* puppet show:
"Walter's thoughts on the 2016 election" | Jeff Dunham: Politically Unbalanced Ep. 1

Populism is sexist because it leaves out momulism!!! /s


297 posted on 05/18/2016 9:35:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: Nita Nupress

I learned from your post, tku.

But let’s start from the first supposition. Do you actually believe that Ted “has managed to convince himself that his moral convictions and motivations originate from God, not from Self.”

Seven years of an Ivy League education can be very detrimental to the Christian beliefs of a young man. Most emerge as atheists or agnostics.

Since Ted’s campaign behavior has not been aligned with Christian teachings, I suspect that he has polished an opportunistic religious act to woo conservatives. He has memorized ‘christian speak’ and ‘conservative speak’ and rolled them into one effective speech after another.

The problem is that his eye movement and gesturing are out of sync with honest speech. Which means he often doesn’t really agree with what he has just said.


298 posted on 05/18/2016 10:05:59 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Texas Fossil

A majority of 2?
:-)


299 posted on 05/18/2016 10:31:54 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; combat_boots; Innovative; PapaBear3625; Ray76; SkyDancer; jennychase

This thread was posted a few days ago by FR Innovative.

Ted Cruz poised to challenge Trump in Texas
Politico ^ | Kyle Cheney
Posted on May 13, 2016 12:29:04 AM EDT by Innovative

I am unable to access the full article.
Can someone check the original Politico article and see what specifically was laid out in terms of proposed rules changes for the next primaries or July convention and post them to this thread? thank you


300 posted on 05/18/2016 10:52:09 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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