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Ted Cruz Says Fight Not Over with GOP Convention Nearing (Wants to CANCEL Open Primaries )
Christian Post ^ | May 16, 2016 | LIEZL DUNUAN

Posted on 05/17/2016 4:08:52 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Ted Cruz and his allies are preparing for the coming National GOP Convention. According to NBC News, Cruz who recently attended a GOP convention in Texas told his supporters that the days ahead will be "challenging" for the Republican Party. He, however, expressed hope that those who remain loyal to him and the party "will be the remnant, will be the core of pulling this country back from the abyss."

Aside from this pronouncement, [he] has remained mum about whether he will throw his support for presumptive nominee Donald Trump. According to the NBC report, the support of Cruz and his allies in Texas is needed by Trump if he is squaring off with Democratic Presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for the presidential elections. A Texan party elder, Steve Munisteri said that "Ted Cruz has led a national movement, a conservative movement. We certainly need solid conservatives to be behind our nominee [Trump.]"

... Cruz and his allies in the Republican Party are EYEING TO CONTINUE THEIR FIGHT TO RUN THE PARTY. Despite his failure to win over Trump, ... he is still hoping that when he attends the National Convention,... he will be able to bring about key changes in how the party governs itself and picks its presidential nominee. Aside from changes in rules, the party will also be working out its "official policy platform" as well as "determine how much power the RNC has to make new rules of its own."

>>The key discussion points, which will also be the likely flash points during the convention, will include CLOSED PRIMARIES. THIS MEANS DOING AWAY WITH OPEN PRIMARIES AND THE "CONSCIENCE CLAUSE," which will RELEASE CONSERVATIVE DELEGATES FROM SUPPORTING THE PRESUMPTIVE DELEGATE, should that delegate represent views that contradict theirs or the party.

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To: Roos_Girl

You miss the point of the article, completely.

READ:
“AND THE “CONSCIENCE CLAUSE,” which will RELEASE CONSERVATIVE DELEGATES FROM SUPPORTING THE PRESUMPTIVE DELEGATE, should that delegate represent views that contradict theirs or the party.”

This means delegates are not bound.

So why have any election? you tell me if delegates may choose willy-nilly

And, if you are in Florida, you ought to know that the FL R party changed the primary date and the delegate rules to accommodate Jeb Bush. Florida is the only state that has delegates bound until the 4th ballot. Sucks to be the Bushes when Jeb had already withdrawn and the deal benefits a total outsider- TRUMP!

How about you do some research and get back to us after you have determined how many Cruz delegates are on the RNC convention rules committee and what days they convene to vote and make the rules for 2016.

Then we’ll have something to discuss.


241 posted on 05/17/2016 7:57:04 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: chris37

CNN Tweet:

“BREAKING: @moody has learned @realbencarson will return to FL following #IAcaucus, will not go to either NH or SC “

Says he is going to FL and will NOT go to either NH or SC!

Flat states he is not going on.


242 posted on 05/17/2016 8:00:20 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: mkjessup
He's right about open primaries (that just means no democrat mischief).

I also wish he would shut up about all things except beating the rats in November.

243 posted on 05/17/2016 8:10:42 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. He's not Hillary. I love both these things.)
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To: mkjessup
*Mic drop*
244 posted on 05/17/2016 8:17:12 PM PDT by Salamander (Disco bloodbath boogie fever...)
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To: TexasGator

Doesn’t say he is suspending his campaign, does it?

What was it that Ted Cruz apologized to Ben Carson for again?

Like I said, it’s all right there nice and time stamped for you, but you apparently aren’t interested in the truth.

Which means that you are lying for Lyin’ Ted on purpose.

I don’t much like liars.


245 posted on 05/17/2016 8:36:22 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Oh, you, or someone did, added “(wants to cancel open primaries)” that isn’t in the original title, so I thought that’s what we were focusing on.

Though a month old, even Trump says he’s not worried about a rule change negatively affecting him:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/12/politics/gop-convention-rules-committee/

Even Infowars won’t say Cruz is attempting to steal the nomination, though they do try to use words that lead you to believe that that is what is happening. This is what they say though: “On Sunday, a top Cruz aide sent out a letter to convention delegates stating it is “still possible to advance a conservative agenda at the convention.”” I’m sure you know that one of the things that happens at the convention is reexamining and updating the party platform.
http://www.infowars.com/cruz-operatives-plan-to-stack-rules-and-platform-committees-at-rnc-convention/

I know you really want this to be a big deal, but I think it isn’t.


246 posted on 05/17/2016 8:37:50 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Those "non-Republicans" are independents who burned their Republican cards, only to come back when they saw Trump was running. If Republicans acted like Republicans, then yes, we should have closed primaries.

This is all true, but not relevant. The Republican Party is a club all are invited to. Only those that accepted the invitation should have a say in that part of the process.

Independents can hope for an outcome. If they were never part of the fold, they should have no say. If they walked away they said to the fold they were no longer interested in having a say. If they now like the Party, let them rejoin and make sure good guys control the Congress. They can still contribute. Replace guys like Ryan and McCain with conservatives if they get the chance.

These days I'm all in for Trump. If I was independent, now that Trump has all the marbles, I could find my way into a polling place this November and vote for him.

247 posted on 05/17/2016 8:54:50 PM PDT by stevem
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To: bushwon
Ted Cruz has not been able to get the people, so he wants to steal this election from the people. So tired of the dirty tricks. I wish he would walk as Godly as he preached, and ask #NeverTrump to just disband, a now back up the People's Choice” not Hillary.
248 posted on 05/17/2016 8:57:53 PM PDT by CynthiaN (Disband #NeverTrump)
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To: chris37

Thank you, Sir, You are correct.
Total embarrassing moment for Texas.


249 posted on 05/17/2016 8:57:53 PM PDT by CynthiaN (Disband #NeverTrump)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“Can’t stand his condescending tone or smirk.”

It’s a good thing Trump came along or I’d be holding my nose again!

I voted for Reagan 3 times, Gov./Pres./Pres.......ow I get to vote for Trump! WooHoo!!!!!!!!!!


250 posted on 05/17/2016 8:58:51 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Let's just hold on one gol darn second here. This is the complete statement from the source article:

"The key discussion points, which will also be the likely flash points during the convention, will include closed primaries. This means doing away with open primaries and the "conscience clause," which will release conservative delegates from supporting the presumptive delegate, should that delegate represent views that contradict theirs or the party."

Just perhaps there is some ambiguity there? Depends on how you parse it out. Look at it this way, "doing away with open primaries and the "conscience clause,". Does that mean doing away with the "conscience clause"? Does anyone happen to know if the "conscience clause" is currently part of RNC rules?

251 posted on 05/17/2016 9:04:55 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It wastes time.)
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To: stevem

“The Republican Party is a club all are invited to.”

You have it backwards. I AM TTHE REPUBLICAN PARTY. The so-called GOPe are the people trying to usurp MY party from ME.

One by one like Cantor, and soon to be Paul Ryan. I, and my fellow Republicans will take our party back from them..........


252 posted on 05/17/2016 9:04:58 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Biblical speech belongs everywhere.


253 posted on 05/17/2016 9:06:14 PM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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To: sargon
I have lost so much respect for Ted Cruz, I hope I'm never again faced with the need to vote for him for anything. He's an absolute disgrace at this point, talking past reality as if he can summon his own universe by endlessly repeating his hollow talking points.

Cruz promised his voters he would go to DC and behave a certain way. He did that when nearly everyone, including most on his side wanted Cruz hung by the neck using piano pitch wire while on tiptoes so his death would be slow and torturous. He told the United States that our leaders in DC were selling us out whenever they could.

My guess is he did it when his own family could happily avoid the notoriety.

He did it when well meaning advice was contrary.

I'm an old buzzard, but in my upbringing, what Cruz did took courage.

A few times in my life I have taken a run at something I wanted and failed to get it. Once I spent myself to exhaustion for several years only to lose in the end.

I'll always harken back to that courage thing. This will likely never happen, but if Cruz ever gets close enough to me, I will proudly shake his hand.

To call him a low life these days is lame, lame, lame.

254 posted on 05/17/2016 9:12:01 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Ted Cruz’s new campaign song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXIjE_gDw94

It is really sad, he could have been the VP with a lock on the nomination for president in 4 or 8 years. Now he seems to be a lonely figure marching away from every one and any future.

Unless he is somehow right and Trump is the anti-Christ.


255 posted on 05/17/2016 9:14:08 PM PDT by Frederick303
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To: sargon
What good does it do to nominate a party extremist if they can't garner enough votes to win a general election?

None whatsoever. That doesn't give the right to non members to pick the standard bearer. If Republicans choose poorly, that's life in the fast lane.

I wanted Cruz to win the nomination. I think a debate between Cruz and clinton would have been the best entertainment of the decade.

This fall I want Trump to win. I do like the fact that he pushes back in a way that we have been pleading for Republicans to do for, what, nearly three decades?

256 posted on 05/17/2016 9:18:50 PM PDT by stevem
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To: stevem

You don’t get it. Cruz’s “courage” that I voted for in 2012 was actually nothing but a show. It was a really clever ruse. It was his cover to paint himself as a “true conservative” who would be a shoe-in for the 2016 nomination on the unlikely chance that Jeb didn’t make it. It would have worked, too, if not for his bad luck of trying it the same year as some guy named Trump.

The filibuster. The calling out of Chief RINO McConnell on the Senate floor. The “face of God” man who didn’t put any money in God’s donation plate.

All for show. I just hope enough Texans see it before his next Senate run.


257 posted on 05/17/2016 9:30:05 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Who wants slaves to the GOPe picking RINOs for the nominee?

I don't...never did. Nevertheless, that's something for Republicans to decide.

GOPe can do whatever they like. Regardless, in every political convention I ever attended the delegates had full authority to make convention rules and pick any nominee they chose.

I don't know or care how the Democrats do things. I have only attended GOP conventions for the last 30 years.

I have never been a delegate at the National convention, but I will bet sawbucks to lock washers that the delegates in Cleveland have the authority to overrule anything GOPe wants to do as long as a leader organizes them in some direction.

Trump owns the convention. Nevertheless, it says right here, if the delegates all conspired to nominate some homeless guy who lives under a bridge in spaghetti junction, the delegates have that right. The delegates, in the end, control each and every rule at a convention.

258 posted on 05/17/2016 9:33:02 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Texas may be the greatest place on Earth to live but I will never know.

Sending Canadian citizens to Washington in order to run for President is a seriously significant dead giveaway to the political acumen of Voters there.

Frankly, I am not interested in having neighbors as dumb as the ones that I already have. Not worth the the transition.

259 posted on 05/17/2016 9:41:22 PM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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To: Forty-Niner
You have it backwards. I AM TTHE REPUBLICAN PARTY. The so-called GOPe are the people trying to usurp MY party from ME...One by one like Cantor, and soon to be Paul Ryan. I, and my fellow Republicans will take our party back from them........

This is a rough thread. GOPe can take zip from you that the delegates...let me say again...DELEGATES don't allow them to take.

I would love to see Ryan get primaried out of a job. I doubt that will happen. And, I have zero votes ANYWHERE in that process. That's for the boys and girls in a real tiny area of Wisconsin to decide.

260 posted on 05/17/2016 9:41:52 PM PDT by stevem
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