Posted on 04/26/2016 8:56:07 PM PDT by MacMattico
I voted for Cruz in the NY primary because I thought he was the most conservative candidate. But it's over. Trump is the nominee. Any contested convention with the number of delegates Trump will have will guarantee defeat in November. I will not sit at home either and let the Clintons back into the White House without a fight. I may not have voted for Trump (yet) but he is what I have to work with to defeat the Clintons and save the Supreme Court and that's what I plan on doing starting tomorrow morning. I'm all in, and that's the only way we can save a generation from the Obama/Clinton new world order. I hope some of you can join me that said never Trump. He's so much better than Hillary Clinton and her entourage. I also think Trump will now reach 1237 so let's come together.
In the end, that's all they are doing at this point.
If he can't do it, then he doesn't deserve the nomination.
Surely you aren't afraid that he can't convince enough uncommitted delegates to come over to his side, are you?
Do you think he's pissed off that many people in his rather unusual campaign?
Voting: “If it was important, they wouldn’t let us do it”. Mark Twain
Voter fraud: Without it, the democrats would never win an election. Why do you think they are against voter ID laws?
My two new favorite phrases I heard this week!!
Bravo Savage and FR!!
I really can’t argue with your words. My wife and I share the reticence for the same reasons.
It is a gamble on Trump, but he holds potential almost no other candidate has. There’s a cloud, but there’s also sun.
There are ways to read Trump in which he stays consistent but sounds like he’s changing his mind. For instance, his tax plan greatly reduces taxes on “the rich,” but he said this past week he wants the rich to pay more. Is this inherently inconsistent? Not at all.
Reagan and Clinton both had great tax windfalls when a Republican congress reduced taxes “on the rich.” What happened is that the velocity of money greatly sped up and this further encouraged people to invest money left on the sidelines. This made tax receipts shoot up, making “the rich” pay a ton more in taxes (and everyone else), but everyone was also keeping more in their pockets. Hundreds of billions of dollars extra came into the government that had not been expected under standard static modeling.
So, understand Trump has a number of things in which he plays it to appeal to liberals, but in reality, his real plans are very different in how the “liberal” thing will actually be accomplished.
Unfortunately, there are also those things in which Donald is truly out to lunch, but, well, you get some bad with the good, right?
Hang in there. You are fighting a good fight. Just know that we can sometimes make lemonade from our lemon situations.
It might just be the best beverage you didn’t expect to be drinking. And that’s okay.
But feel free to use the Bro's bathroom.
Thumbs Up !!
You're laying it on a little thick. To get zotted from this community, you have to make a distinct effort. Yes, there are some third rails not to touch, but they are eminently logical at this stage in the process.
Squelching blatant propaganda which destroys any possibility of unity is a necessary task at this juncture.
Indeed, if Jim Robinson didn't make some effort to counter the constant Cruz fanboy propaganda, then he wouldn't be much of a Trump supporter.
Political campaigns are wars of propaganda, and Ted Cruz has lost this propaganda war.
A nobody is clean here. There can be no claim that any side hasn't engaged in propaganda to try to help advance their candidate.
But that phase is moving rapidly into the past.
So I don't see you somehow getting yourself accidentally zotted, unless your willingness to support of Donald Trump as the nominee isn't sincere in the first place.
I don't think anyone particularly enjoys engaging in a "war of words" with their fellow conservatives who support a different candidate.
But intellectual honesty and a sense of fairness should dictate that, at some point, reality can be accepted.
I will state once again for the record, that Ted Cruz was my first choice as a candidate at the time that Donald Trump announced his candidacy.
However, due to several actions that Cruz took, which demonstrated a lack of principle and leadership, and, conversely, showed him to be a naked opportunist who embraced Machiavellian tactics, and was even willing to jump into bed with the GOPe, Ted Cruz ended up losing me along the way, and Donald Trump won my support during the same time period.
This was not an accident, or a mistake, or something that wasn't deserved, IMHO. Frankly, Ted Cruz's egotism and narcissism, coupled with his amoral ambition, did his campaign in, in the eyes of more than a few former and potential supporters.
For instance, my Mom, who would be the last type of Republican to jump aboard the Trump train, liked Ted Cruz less and less, the more she saw of him.
That Cruz made some significant missteps cannot be denied. Perhaps Donald Trump, having already been in the public eye for decades, enjoyed an advantage here. Cruz was still being introduced to the electorate, and he really didn't end up making all that great of an impression. Essentially, only staunch, nearly fanatical ideological purists seem to have stuck with him, and many purists ultimately indeed did not.
I'd like to hear some thoughtful analysis from current or former Cruz supporters as to what they think went wrong. I don't think it's fair or accurate to just externalize everything onto Donald Trump. I'd like to read some honest assessments that avoid such shortcuts.
Peace.
Vote Trump
No thank you.
It’s like I said. Nobody.... Nobody really knows who Donald Trump is. He is a gamble, which is funny because he is also a casino owner.
Speaking of gambling, I would bet that either now or right after he hits the magic number, that his rhetoric will turn hard left and his Rockefeller Republican leanings will come out in spades. (pun intended).
And I suspect we are all going to gasp when he chooses his running mate. Although Donald has such a big ego, he may choose himself to be his own running mate.
Trump/Trump 2016
A Winning Team.
Hillary isn't your garden variety liberal, she's Satan's concubine and MUST be defeated.
Wait until men start using the women’s restrooms. They pee on the seats. I would hold it for a week before I would sit down in a public men’s restroom.
“hat his rhetoric will turn hard left”
I’m not so sure. I think he has staked out his ground; it’s already a bit of a mix. Plus Sanders drove Hillary so far left, he has the whole right and middle lanes. But..we’ll see.
“Thanks for the post. But what do people think a “Nationalist” is?”
Not sure what others think, I think it’s someone who puts the interests of the USA before all other countries. We haven’t had a leader like that in a very long time. It’s time.
“Why is this ok and a reasonable substitute for a constitutional conservative?”
It’s not. It’s completely different. I like Cruz, he’d make a GREAT president. He can’t beat hillary.
“Please define for me what you (or anyone really) thinks a “Nationalist” is. Then explain why that’s a good thing.”
IMO, someone who puts the USA first in policy decisions. So Less money for foreign aid, more money for us. A big wall on the southern border so Americans can have more jobs and less drugs and crime. Less military spending abroad as other countries are forced to pay for their own defense, if they want access to our consumer markets, so less military causalities and spending for us.
I would say that’s all good for the USA. Mexico, Saudi Arabia, and others won’t like it at all though. So what.
“This country was built, designed and fought for based on Individual freedom, integrity hard work, ingenuity. All the best individual qualities left alone in a civil society would always lead the Nation in the best direction based on it’s founding. What is Nationalist and how does it fit the founders expectations and model for individual and state liberties?”
I’m not sure I know enough about all this to answer. I only have my own humble opinion. I don’t think being a Nationalist precludes any of the above values. However having said that, I don’t think Trump is the best person to uphold ALL those values you mention, he is from the northeast.
But being a Nationalist implies “love of country” and that means you want your country to be prosperous, successful and ...great. Basically the opposite of a democrat.
“I’ll hang up and listen to your answer off the air.”
Lol, we’ll be right back after this obscene profit timeout!
IMHO, he might be a loose cannon.
I lose sleep too, but only about the possibility of the Clinton Criminal Enterprises finishing the job that the Muslim Manchurian Candidate began, and continues getting away with.
The only way to save our country, the way it was originally created is with the New Total Socialism administered by the only megalomaniacs who can "do it right."
Political correctness and mindless egalitarianism created the perfect combination for their weapon of mass destruction.
But only if we allow it to continue...
60% OF DEM VOTERS IN PA THINK HILLARY IS HONEST AND TRUSTWORTHY.
The idiocracy finally prevails.
As is your right. Does it sit well with you however that Cruz easily threw in with Kasich in an odd attempt to throw the nomination process? It's my impression that Cruz and his team really don't care what the voters think as long as they can rig the game in their favor.
I'm 50 years old now and have never followed an election this closely. This process been unsightly and obviously wrought with corruption.
“He is a gamble,”
I agree.
It’s a crapshoot with Trump.
With Hillary, it’s not.
I think you've missed all those little hints from that great group of GOPe folks.
Hint 1: a cabal of them consistently trying to derail the front runner. I don't think this has EVER happened in either party.
Hint 2: All the SuperPac ads going totally negative on only one candidate.
Hint 3: The Romney strategy announced.
Hint 4: Suddenly Cruz takes on Neil Bush and the Bush family money.
Hint 5: The Cruz statement that anyone (Kasich) who is mathematically eliminated should drop out (principled, huh?).
Hint 6: The newly minted alliance between Cruz/Kasich/Romney/Gope.
All of this points to one man who should know he's being used, or alternatively is so sure of his own destiny that he's willing to destroy all sense of unity for his ambition.
That one man, Ted Cruz, he's the one who has no path to the nomination. None. If he succeeds in the GOPe/Romney strategy to prevent Trump, they're gonna turn around and take it from him right after.
He should know that, heck, you should know that, but Cruz and his supporters are simply delusional.
They are the ones who need to unify behind the front runner.
Unless, of course, they actually want Hillary to win, and the house and senate go dem with her. National Review, Bill Kristol et al want that desperately, and from what I'm seeing that's who Cruz is helping and is allied with now.
I used to have admiration for Cruz. For him to do what he's doing it has simply shown his true colors. He's not principled, he's got some kind of problem, and it's not particularly a good one to have.
I watched my old FRiend the_doc get zotted for merely stating that he would not vote for Trump in the general election. Frankly since I live in California, I might not vote for him either, because my vote counts for nothing and my conscience prohibits me from wasting my vote on someone who isn't truly pro-life or pro-constitution. I have my doubts about what Trump believes, especially since he now wants to change the platform on abortion to make it more liberal.
A lot of people were zotted for saying things that were simply opinions that went contrary to the feelings of the owner. Of course that's his right, but it is also pretty dumb to zot old time Freepers who are standing on principle, even when that principle might seem to be counterproductive in the long run.
Personally, if I have to compromise my principles to vote for someone, I will not vote for them. I will suffer the consequences.
When I die, I am not going to be standing before the Free Republic Admin Moderator and asked to give an accounting of my life.
I am convinced that it is going to take a lot of tar, and hemp.
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