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Deep in Lake Michigan, divers find pristine shipwreck lost in 1899
Mlive.com ^ | July 22, 2015 | Garret Ellison

Posted on 07/22/2015 6:33:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek

LAKE MICHIGAN — It was 3:30 a.m., and Jeff Voss was tired.

Voss, a tool and die shop owner when he's not diving on shipwrecks, had been at the wheel since midnight, kept awake by Red Bull and the monotonous duty of keeping the boat on course while simultaneously monitoring the sonar.

Somewhere below, a phantom lay waiting. Voss and his fellow wreck sleuths had been patiently combing a 10-square-mile grid of Lake Michigan off Muskegon for the past three days in a modified 25-foot Bayliner; "mowing the lawn" with side-scan sonar in search of a lost propeller steamer that had slipped gently below the icy lake surface more than 116 years ago.

Voss was about to wake fellow searchers Jack van Heest and David Trotter to hand off the boring job when the sonar picked up a structure.

Paydirt.

(Excerpt) Read more at mlive.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Local News
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; johnvmoran; michigan; muskegon; shipwreck; shipwrecklkmichigan
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To: just me
No salt...

Great Lakes Unsalted.
No sharks, no problem.

21 posted on 07/22/2015 7:11:54 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yup. Pretty much everything you could want from a news story. Who what where when why how.


22 posted on 07/22/2015 7:12:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: umgud

I believe Michigan has more lighthouses than any other state for a reason. (124)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lighthouses_in_the_United_States#Michigan


23 posted on 07/22/2015 7:16:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: cripplecreek

Me and the wife wandered around the Splitrock lighthouse north of Duluth last month. The Minnesota Historical Society has done a great job preserving the lighthouse, grounds and even the mechanism that turns the lamp. The North Shore and Isle Royale are some of my favorite places on the planet.


24 posted on 07/22/2015 7:21:59 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring

I have an original steel cut engraving of the bay before the lighthouse and a black and white photo of it just after completion. ( side by side on the wall for comparison)


25 posted on 07/22/2015 7:46:21 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: cripplecreek
John V. Moran

Moran, huh? FR should adopt it.

Now if they could just find the S.S. Maroon...


26 posted on 07/22/2015 7:58:26 PM PDT by 867V309 (Boehner is the new Pelosi)
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To: cripplecreek

” The last confirmed sighting of the ship happened a couple of days later, on Sunday afternoon, when a passing railcar ferry radioed shore to report the ship still afloat.”

I’m skeptical about this sentence in the article. commercial wireless radio was still in the womb in early 1899.


27 posted on 07/22/2015 8:55:14 PM PDT by Rebelbase ( NASCAR 2015: "Bootlegger to boot licker"--FReeper Crim)
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To: CrazyIvan

Amazing find. Who the heck dives in the cold waters of huge lakes? I admire their bravery.


28 posted on 07/22/2015 9:24:51 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: MRadtke

You’re the man. My first open water check out dive was in Hot Springs, Ark. I buddy breathed with some guys blond wife 30 feet down. I kept thinking this ain’t right, haha.
Kudos for diving in the cold northern waters.


29 posted on 07/22/2015 9:41:28 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: cripplecreek

My great, great grandfather was lost when the schooner, ‘Oceans’ went down in a storm on lake Michigan in 1845. The schooner was carrying lumber from Sault St Marie to Chicago. This in 1845.

Not knowing this when I was younger, I wanted to have a summer or two crewing on a Great Lakes freighter. And at the time I was in Iowa, a native of Des Moines.

Later I did live some of that dream, by sailing on Lake Erie. I sailed the breadth of Lake Erie, and across it to Canada. Experience to last several lifetimes!


30 posted on 07/22/2015 10:09:54 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: tanknetter

I cannot believe that no one has found the Northwest Orient DC4 that went down in Lake Michigan in 1950 with 58 people on it.


31 posted on 07/22/2015 10:17:05 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: IncPen

interesting ping


32 posted on 07/22/2015 11:53:02 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: just me; SamAdams76; cripplecreek

More correctly, it is the lack of Oxygen at that depth/temperature that helps preserve it.


33 posted on 07/23/2015 4:20:06 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: cripplecreek; 11th_VA; SamAdams76; Larry Lucido; milwguy; Brown Deer; Atom Smasher; MaggieCarta; ...
Fascinating story. But one obvious historical error by the author:

The last confirmed sighting of the ship happened a couple of days later, on Sunday afternoon, when a passing railcar ferry radioed shore to report the ship still afloat.

No way. Radio did not exist in 1899. It was invented by Marconi in the first decade of the 1900s. (It was used, BTW, by the Titanic to alert a rescue ship, but that was 1912.)

Would anyone know anything about John V. Moran, the man for whom the ship was named?

34 posted on 07/23/2015 5:09:29 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Probably signal lamp or semaphore.


35 posted on 07/23/2015 5:23:42 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: justiceseeker93
The shipbuilder was U.S. Congressman Frank Willis Wheeler.

The ship was named for John Vallee Moran (1846-1920) of Detroit.
36 posted on 07/23/2015 9:23:13 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: justiceseeker93

Moran, btw was not Irish. They were French-Canadian, the name originating as Morand.


37 posted on 07/23/2015 9:30:49 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: justiceseeker93; LucyT

lol, John V. Moran’s great grandmother Marie-Anne Belleperche Morand was a 6th great aunt of Hillary Rodham Clinton.


38 posted on 07/23/2015 9:35:49 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer; null and void; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; Myrddin; MamaDearest; autumnraine; ...
”Image

John V. Moran’s great grandmother Marie-Anne Belleperche Morand was a 6th great aunt of Hillary Rodham Clinton

Amazing, Brown Deer. Esp since we don't know 0's parents, even though he has occupied the 0val 0ffice for about seven years.

39 posted on 07/23/2015 11:48:36 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: justiceseeker93

Quibble — Marconi didn’t invent radio — Tesla demonstrated radio at the 1893 Columbian Exposition, eventually won a pyrrhic victory in court.


40 posted on 07/23/2015 12:54:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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