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Home schooling was focus of Child Protection investigation, N.J. family says
NJ.com ^ | April 10, 2015 | Emily Cummins

Posted on 04/24/2015 11:00:15 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes

BELVIDERE—A Warren County family is suing the state's Division of Child Protection and Permanency for alleged unconstitutional home intrusion and civil rights violations.

Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole, of Belvidere, filed a civil rights complaint in United States District Court in Trenton yesterday against DCP&P, a DCP&P supervisor and one of its case workers for an alleged "unlawful and unconstitutional home intrusion of their home."

"I won't forget that morning for a long, long time," said Mr. Zimmer, thinking back to a Tuesday morning in January that began with a caseworker pounding on their door. ....

Mr. Zimmer said that the caseworker demanded she be let inside, adding that the family did not have a choice. Startled by her aggression, Mr. Zimmer questioned why she was there.

The Zimmers allege that the caseworker refused to answer the question, until later admitting that the homeschooling of 15-year-old Christopher Zimmer, Jr. was the focus of her investigation.

Not knowing the extent of his rights, Mr. Zimmer called town police to sort out the matter, but police ultimately said the caseworker was allowed to come into the house.

At that point, the family made a decision more out of fear than logic.

Mr. Zimmer let the woman inside their home, attempting to prove he had nothing to hide, but after two hours of questioning that the family describes as interrogation, it became clear that this would not end quickly.

"My fear was, if I didn't let her in the house, if I had closed the door and didn't let her in the house then the police would be knocking at the door and think I'm hiding something," he said.

The questions started out simple, asking about home life and happiness, but Mr. Zimmer said the questions soon became invasive and pointed, ...

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


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To: Tired of Taxes

And here’s a PDF of the Complaint:

http://media.nj.com/warrenreporter_impact/other/Zimmer%20%20Family%20Lawsuit%20.pdf


2 posted on 04/24/2015 11:01:20 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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3 posted on 04/24/2015 11:04:45 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

4th Amendment illegal search,
5th Amendment right to not be interrogated for 2 hours,,

The correct answer is shut up and call an attorney FAST


4 posted on 04/24/2015 11:12:36 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Instead of police, contact the lawyers at HSLDA.

They’ll know EXACTLY what to do. Or not to do.


5 posted on 04/24/2015 11:15:23 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: DesertRhino

Deprivation of rights under color of law

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242


6 posted on 04/24/2015 11:20:14 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: DesertRhino
Be aware of their mistake, compliance and allowing them into the home. Also, opening
the door can be considered an invitation.
7 posted on 04/24/2015 11:26:47 PM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: Admin Moderator

Why was my first comment removed?

I’d just like to know so that I don’t make the same mistake (whatever it was) again. Thanks.


8 posted on 04/24/2015 11:39:52 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

nj.com is excerpt link only and you continued the article in your response.

Also to avoid duplication we ask that everyone include the entire title or as much as can fit in the space. After using the entire published title, and only if there’s room, then someone can add personal comments in parentheses.

Instead you only posted a partial title and I had to add the rest.


9 posted on 04/24/2015 11:46:39 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Tired of Taxes

(My first post with the quoted material now deleted):

This case has EVERYTHING in it:

Parental rights
Homeschooling
2nd Amendment/RKBA
And more...


10 posted on 04/24/2015 11:47:48 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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Okay. I thought the “NJ family says” part was unnecessary, but now I understand. Thanks.


11 posted on 04/24/2015 11:49:24 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

Great post for keeping us informed !!!


12 posted on 04/25/2015 12:20:49 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

more such lawsuits needed...


13 posted on 04/25/2015 12:25:28 AM PDT by leopardseal
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To: Tired of Taxes

$10 million is what the State of NJ should pay, perhaps then the state will constrain themselves to their jobs.

Where is our Guvner ??????

Hey, Christie - CAN YOU REIN IN DYFUS ???????

I mean, we really want it ABOLISHED COMPLETELY.

But, it would nice if you could make sure they don’t harass people.

Then again, that’s what New Word Order has DYFS there for, right ?

They’re supposed to harass people to no end, get rid of homeschooling, get rid of Christianity, take children away from parents who aren’t marxist rank-and-file or marxist elites, right ? Gotta keep DYFS in business. They only lost a few thousands kids a few years back.

That agency is so evil it’s mind-boggling.

Most of the little wicked toties who work in Child Services are monsters. Nice, polite ones, but monsters. Many of them don’t even know they are - they think they’re doing “good things”.


14 posted on 04/25/2015 12:31:14 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

NJ is actually lax for homeschoolers compared to other states; the nanny-state is balancing real homeschooling parents with welfare gibsmedats who don’t send their kids to school (because welfare will be cut if they miss too many days) and call it homeschooling.

Essex County had a case a few years back where a kid’s body was found years after his death; the gibsmedat caretakers weren’t sending him to school, so the nanny-state now sees public schools as the place to keep tabs on everyone.


15 posted on 04/25/2015 3:07:23 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Tired of Taxes

My wife and I home school, God help anyone who tries to take my kids.


16 posted on 04/25/2015 3:32:58 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (In an Oligarchy, the serfs don't count.)
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To: DesertRhino
4th Amendment illegal search,
5th Amendment right to not be interrogated for 2 hours,,

The correct answer is shut up and call an attorney FAST


Bull shit, the real answer is fire power and a commitment to use it to protect your family and yourself from the evil forces of g0vernment!

17 posted on 04/25/2015 3:34:54 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (In an Oligarchy, the serfs don't count.)
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To: leopardseal
more such lawsuits needed...

Do you really think the government cares about law suits?

18 posted on 04/25/2015 3:37:04 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (In an Oligarchy, the serfs don't count.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

The social worker should do 30 years in prison.


19 posted on 04/25/2015 3:42:30 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Tired of Taxes
My answer:
"You can come in after I get to see the warrant "

"Oh' you don't have one...you will wait outside until you do"

"You are going to call the police, great I'd get ahold of my attorney"...

20 posted on 04/25/2015 3:52:45 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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