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Did (Western) Allied troops rape 285,000 German women? [tr ed]
UK Daily Mail ^ | March 26, 2015 | Guy Walters

Posted on 03/26/2015 8:34:12 AM PDT by C19fan

There was no doubt that Private Blake W. Mariano of the 191st Tank Battalion was a brave man. As part of the American Army's 45th Infantry Division, he had killed many Germans as he fought through Africa, Italy and southern France, before finally, in March 1945, he and his Sherman tank had crossed the Rhine into Germany. By April 15, 1945, Mariano had been away from his home in New Mexico for nearly three years. A father of three, the 29-year-old was divorced, although he did have a girlfriend in England.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: africa; allies; americanarmy; battalion; england; france; germans; germany; hitler; infantry; italy; newmexico; rape; rhine; tank; unitedstates; war; wwii
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To: ansel12
American men have always appealed to women

Indeed.

21 posted on 03/26/2015 9:11:44 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: cripplecreek; GraceG; CorporateStepsister; Berlin_Freeper; SkyDancer
I am trying to find the Quote by Stalin and not succeeding (I am at work)

But he said to the effect: " Remember when you get into Germany, only the unborn are innocent."

The Soviet War Memorial in Treptower Park, Berlin, is referred to as the "tomb of the unknown rapist"

22 posted on 03/26/2015 9:12:07 AM PDT by KC_Lion (The Issue is Not The Issue, The Issue is The Revolution.)
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To: KC_Lion

The immorality of communism is something we’re all becoming familiar with at the hands of the American fascist party.


23 posted on 03/26/2015 9:14:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: C19fan

Soviets...probably more than that.


24 posted on 03/26/2015 9:16:35 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Steve_Seattle
No doubt there were some rapes, but this huge figure sounds like typical feminist drivel.

I'm sure they're counting consensual sex and quid pro quo as rape. To feminists, any sexual relations where there is an uneven balance of power is "rape by coercion".

25 posted on 03/26/2015 9:16:58 AM PDT by Drew68 (Scott Walker '16 Proven Executive Leadership)
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To: ansel12

The British men didn’t like American Soldiers, they said the Americans had an over problem they were over fed, overpaid, oversexed and over here.


26 posted on 03/26/2015 9:22:05 AM PDT by Garvin (When it comes to my freedom, there will be no debate. There will be a fight)
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To: KC_Lion

***Every Army under the sun has done so ...***

“There fore let no man hasten to depart home till each have lain by some Trojan’s wife and paid back his strivings and groanings for Helen’s sake.”-Nestor of Gerenia’s speech to the Greeks before the walls of TROY from HOMER’s THE ILLIAD.


27 posted on 03/26/2015 9:22:29 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Steve_Seattle
war is hell....and some 70 years later, we have relive the era....feminist crap

German soldiers didn't rape or pillage?

28 posted on 03/26/2015 9:23:03 AM PDT by B212
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To: Garvin

British women really like American men, even today.


29 posted on 03/26/2015 9:25:27 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12

You are so right. We can not justify criminal behavior against others on the basis of what their countrymen did.


30 posted on 03/26/2015 9:27:49 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: ansel12

You are so right. We can not justify criminal behavior against others on the basis of what their countrymen did.


31 posted on 03/26/2015 9:27:50 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: ansel12

“One has to be evil to rape.”

And what is a person that can kill his fellow human....more evil, less evil, on a scale of 1 to 10 where does killing in a war measure....


32 posted on 03/26/2015 9:27:52 AM PDT by B212
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To: C19fan

If the term “allies” includes Russia, then possible


33 posted on 03/26/2015 9:29:40 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: C19fan
It seems that many didn't read the article. First of all, the author making this accusation is a feminist whack job. Second of all, the way she came up with her rape number is ridiculous. The two pertinent paragraphs:

It should be stressed that Dr Gebhardt is not a specialist World War II historian, but is better known for her works on other topics, such as the feminist movement in Germany, the philosopher Rudolf Steiner and the history of education. She has also spoken at conferences on Left-wing politics, and it is therefore tempting to regard Dr Gebhardt as one of many academics who is not entirely minded to view countries such as the United States and the United Kingdom in a positive light.

So where does she get her high figures of 190,000 rapes by the Americans, and 45,000 by the British? According to the U.S. Army's figures, American troops carried out 552 rapes in Germany. Even if one applies the 'five per cent rule', then this would mean that the total figure is around 11,000. This is a shockingly high number, to be sure, but nowhere near that of nearly 200,000 by U.S. troops alone. Instead, Dr Gebhardt has looked at childbirth statistics in West Germany, and has assumed that five per cent of the children born to unmarried women from 1945 until 1955 were as a result of rape. Of these, she says 1,900 were born to American men. Even if one were able to accept these assumptions, Dr Gebhardt then takes things to an implausible level. Estimating that for each of these 1,900 births there were 100 rapes, she arrives at her bizarre figure of a total of 190,000 German rape victims.

34 posted on 03/26/2015 9:30:08 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: C19fan

From the Article “This number is far too high, and is not supported by any documentary evidence whatsoever. One can only assume that Dr Gebhardt is motivated more by some Leftist anti-American agenda than by proper historical inquiry.”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3011930/Did-Allied-troops-rape-285-000-German-women-s-shocking-claim-new-book-German-feminist-exposing-war-crime-slandering-heroes.html#ixzz3VVghjDrj


35 posted on 03/26/2015 9:30:29 AM PDT by Garvin (When it comes to my freedom, there will be no debate. There will be a fight)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Americans let abortionists and the women who go to them murder millions of unborn babies. We can’t point the finger at Germany without pointing it at our country.


36 posted on 03/26/2015 9:36:09 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: B212
"And what is a person that can kill his fellow human....more evil, less evil, on a scale of 1 to 10 where does killing in a war measure....
I don't think you have any grasp of good and evil. There is nothing evil about violence. There is nothing evil about killing someone. What defines good or evil is why you are doing it. Taking something from someone to satisfy a personal desire is evil. Using appropriate violence to defend someone who is innocent from the predation of someone evil - is GOOD. Rape is always evil. There are no exceptions. Who will judge? God. If there is no God? - then nothing matters anyway.
37 posted on 03/26/2015 9:40:16 AM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: B212

LOL, you think the American serving his country, or the policeman, or the father defending his family is evil if he resists Nazis, or home invaders, or guns down a mass murderer on a killing spree?

Do you want us to surrender to ISIS right now, rather than kill one of them?


38 posted on 03/26/2015 9:40:25 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: CorporateStepsister

“Throw in the Holocaust and suffering of civilians and of course, the cost of war, Germany had it coming. THEY LET Hitler and his band of crazies take over and willingly participated in the rounding up and shipping off of Jews and participated in euthanasia”

Throw in OBAMACARE and suffering of citizens and of course, the cost of OBAMACARE, Obama had it coming. He, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and their band of crazies took over and willingly participated in the “shoving it down the throats” of of Jews,Christians and others—And participated in/stood by silently while allowing ISLAM’S slaughter of same across the middle east...

Now I see.... clearly


39 posted on 03/26/2015 9:44:56 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: C19fan

Also keep in mind that some non-military folks take advantage of a war torn area to commit crimes. Same goes for disaster zones.


40 posted on 03/26/2015 9:46:55 AM PDT by fruser1
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