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Toddler accidentally shoots Hayden Walmart shopper (Killed his mother)
KREM ^

Posted on 12/30/2014 12:52:36 PM PST by sunmars

HAYDEN, Idaho—Employees evacuated the Hayden Walmart on Tuesday following a shooting inside the store.

Authorities on the scene around 11:15 a.m. described the shooting as "accidental."

A woman was shopping with four kids, when one of the kids reached into her purse and accidentally discharged the weapon, according to Kootenai County Sheriff's Deputies at the scene.

The gunshot killed the 29-year-old woman. Deputies on scene said the child who accidentally fired the handgun was about 2-years-old.

Deputies said the woman and children were in the back of the store near the electronics area when it happened. Deputies said the woman was in town for holidays and is not from the area.

Video surveillance in the store, along with eye witness testimony helped deputies determine that this was an accident.

Authorities said the woman did have a concealed weapons permit.

The store is currently closed.

(Excerpt) Read more at krem.com ...


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To: EEGator; Sans-Culotte; leapfrog0202; DesertRhino
Seems to be lots of misinformation on the Glock pistol. If indeed this was a Glock and the trigger was pulled it did exactly what it was designed to do ..... it fired. The glock actually has 3 safeties unlike most revolvers which don't have any (unless you consider a heavy trigger pull a safety).

The Glock Safeties

Glock Pistol

I would also add that if you are carrying a semiauto with an empty chamber you need to study the George Zimmerman case closely.

121 posted on 12/30/2014 3:24:05 PM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
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To: trisham

Check out Patrick F. McManus.


122 posted on 12/30/2014 3:26:56 PM PST by mylife
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To: GilesB

“Exactly - I was thinking the same thing. Revolver or semi-auto, a two year old most likely could not pull the trigger on a double action.”

You are correct that small children typically do not have the finger strength to pull the trigger on a revolver. Instead they tend to turn it around and pull the trigger with both thumbs. Thats why so many end up shooting themselves in the head.
IMO children younger than 5 or six cannot reliably be taught gun safety. Thats why loaded guns must be kept out of their hands. Keeping a gun in a purse around a 2 YO is completely irresponsible.


123 posted on 12/30/2014 3:28:03 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Jed Eckert

Zimmerman is alive.


124 posted on 12/30/2014 3:28:10 PM PST by mylife
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To: Jed Eckert

And Zimmermanns gun was DA only


125 posted on 12/30/2014 3:29:01 PM PST by mylife
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To: Bogey78O

You’re right.


126 posted on 12/30/2014 3:32:06 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: mylife
"Poor Again...Dagnabbit!"

I love it. I also love fishing.

127 posted on 12/30/2014 3:35:33 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eKEgtappZg


128 posted on 12/30/2014 3:38:06 PM PST by mylife
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To: trisham

Pat makes me bust a gut a larfin!


129 posted on 12/30/2014 3:39:06 PM PST by mylife
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To: DJ Taylor

“To carry a Glock with a round in the chamber is like carrying a Model 1911 cocked, unlocked, with a round in the chamber and the grip safety taped down. No one would carry a Model 1911 in this condition, but people carry a Glock in this condition and think nothing of it.”

Thats because the 1911 you described has only the sear and half cock notch keeping it from firing. If its dropped in that condition or if the hc notch fails the gun will go off. The glock cannot fire unless the trigger is pulled because of the internals safeties blocking the firing pin. That being said IMO the Glock is not for gun noobs. To handle a glock safely you need trigger discipline, and a holster covering the trigger. In addition, the glock trigger can also be adjusted so that the pull weight is similar to a double action revolver.


130 posted on 12/30/2014 3:42:16 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: DJ Taylor

A two year old is not going to pull the trigger on a 38. The .38 special is my choice, too.


131 posted on 12/30/2014 3:48:57 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: mylife
That last part...may just be a story..

LOL! Thanks, mylife.

132 posted on 12/30/2014 3:50:24 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s right! Those bags do the heavy lifting so men only need to carry a little wallet. ;)

When [mistakenly] asking Dad for something while on any outing, kids learn to “Ask Mom” or “Check Mom’s purse.”

And besides makeup, there’s a whole host of women’s products that men.. don’t want to know about.


133 posted on 12/30/2014 3:56:16 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

“17 rounds is better than 6 in a scenario like that.”

I agree that overall 17 is better than 6, and it is easier to change out a magazine than to use a speed loader. But a safe 6, reliable, easy to use, is better than nothing. I mean, 6 can be better than 17 if the 6 are easier and more reliable to fire in an emergency.

In an emergency one has to feel totally comfortable and totally in control of the f/a of choice.

In addition, as this case shows, in the NON-emergency, one has to feel totally comfortable and totally in control of the f/a at all times.

I carried the 1911 .45 in the service. For my personal protection, I like the revolver.


134 posted on 12/30/2014 3:57:43 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: mylife

I’m a SIG fan. I had six of them, but had a boating accident last summer and they were lost at sea..


135 posted on 12/30/2014 4:15:43 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Jed Eckert

I often see that Glock has “safeties”

Perhaps they stop accidental discharge from dropped weapons, but pretty much anything that pushes the trigger with about 5 pounds of pressure makes it shoot. Glock can call it a safety, but it don’t.

I use my Glock 17 at the range, but would never carry it with a round in the chamber.


136 posted on 12/30/2014 4:20:20 PM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: DesertRhino
Glock designed it to the prevailing practice of the standard military truck driver or mortar crewman, not to Delta force.

If that was the case then why did they require the takedown of their guns to violate one of the 4 rules of gun safety?
137 posted on 12/30/2014 4:27:32 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Compared to obama, Jimmy Carter looks like Winston Churchill.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing; All

I love 1911’s. Their design is a proven one and safe to carry cocked and locked. One needs to do a sequence of 4 things, two of them concurrently, to get the gun to fire.

1) Clear the holster

2) Drop the thumb safety

3) Push on the grip safety

while at the same time

4) Pulling the trigger

One of the safest designs ever invented.


138 posted on 12/30/2014 4:29:58 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Compared to obama, Jimmy Carter looks like Winston Churchill.)
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To: DJ Taylor

Spot on post. One of the reasons I do not own a Glock.


139 posted on 12/30/2014 4:32:08 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Compared to obama, Jimmy Carter looks like Winston Churchill.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

My friend’s child, aged 2, blinded his Grandma in one eye. He was just swinging a toy. No one in the family is ever going to tell the tyke. Just a freak occurrence, and after four surgeries they cannot repair her vision. She holds her precious grandchild no ill will.


140 posted on 12/30/2014 4:33:05 PM PST by Yaelle
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