Posted on 12/30/2014 12:52:36 PM PST by sunmars
HAYDEN, Idaho—Employees evacuated the Hayden Walmart on Tuesday following a shooting inside the store.
Authorities on the scene around 11:15 a.m. described the shooting as "accidental."
A woman was shopping with four kids, when one of the kids reached into her purse and accidentally discharged the weapon, according to Kootenai County Sheriff's Deputies at the scene.
The gunshot killed the 29-year-old woman. Deputies on scene said the child who accidentally fired the handgun was about 2-years-old.
Deputies said the woman and children were in the back of the store near the electronics area when it happened. Deputies said the woman was in town for holidays and is not from the area.
Video surveillance in the store, along with eye witness testimony helped deputies determine that this was an accident.
Authorities said the woman did have a concealed weapons permit.
The store is currently closed.
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What a shame. Surely the gun must have had a safety that wasn’t on? I feel terrible for that child. He or she will grow up knowing they killed their mother even though they were just a toddler & didn’t know what they were doing. Heavy load for anyone.
yup.
you are making a baseless assumption that the gun was in a holster in the purse.
Yes, and a purse snatcher hits, and you lost your gun. Its a convenient temptation, but not the best carry option.
If someone gets your purse before you can react, or gets it away from you, there goes the gun.
You mean Condition 0, not 4.
Condition 4: Chamber empty, empty magazine, hammer down.Since a clock has no external safety, chambering a round brings it from condition 3 to 0.
Condition 3: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition 2: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition 1: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety on.
Condition 0: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off.
If someone gets your purse before you can react, or gets it away from you, there goes the gun.
Glocks don’t have safeties.
you don’t leave a loaded firearm near a 2 year old.....
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Totally agree. The woman probably thought whe was being safe in protecting her kids against any harm that might come.
Fortunately - the kid didn’t shoot himself, the other children in his family or a stranger. Just his mother.
Sad that anyone was shot, but if someone had to be shot - she was the natural choice.
Me too. Same reason.
If not, she might as well have said “Johnny, get my gun out of my purse”.
Is there like a condition 1.5 where you’ve got everything in Condition 2 but hammer is down and safety is on.
“clock” should have been “Glock”
Regardless, if a child can get to a gun inside a purse and fire it, it wasn’t secured.
Very true. Am aware of that, which is why I cross-carry my purse and its strap is reinforced with piano wire by the makers. Other constraints mean that 95% of the time, it's purse carry or no carry for me and a purse gun is better than no gun at all.
A Kahr PM45 has no safety. Intended for CC quick reaction.
One shot from a .45 and you are usually toast.
As it happens, immediately following three of the several Glock accidental discharges I've observed, the shooter said, "But..but...but, I never keep a round in the chamber."
Jeff Cooper's "conditions" were primarily meant to apply to 1911-style pistols. In a 1911, if the hammer is down, the pistol won't fire, so there is no need for the safety to be on.
I guess you could keep a 1911 in "1.5", so that one would have to flip the safety AND cock the hammer, to increase child safety, but in that case you should go with condition 3, since racking the slide would be faster than flipping safety plus cocking hammer, plus racking the slide requires more strength than a 2 year old has.
SIG P226
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