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Does Richard III's DNA question the Queen's right to the throne? Analysis reveals relative of
UK Daily Mail ^ | December 2, 2014 | Fiona McCrae and Sarah Griffiths

Posted on 12/02/2014 11:06:51 AM PST by C19fan

He was one of the nation’s most notorious monarchs in life, and Richard III is still creating controversy more than 500 years after his death. Genetic analysis of a skeleton discovered beneath a car park in Leicester three years ago has confirmed it did indeed belong to the last Plantagenet king. Much more intriguingly, it held a secret that could shake the foundations of the Tudor dynasty. The genetic discovery even raises a question mark over the current Queen’s royal heritage. DNA analysis revealed that one of Richard III’s male relatives was cuckolded - leading to his wife giving birth to another man’s child. Depending on just who was unfaithful, it could have far-reaching consequences.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: gameofthrones; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; kingrichardiii; leicester; monarchy; monarchysucks; plantagenets; richardiii; royalty; thereisnoroyalty
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Dude....Someone needs to do some genealogy and determine given which male relative was cuckolded who should be the proper monarch of the United Kingdom. The current residents of Buckingham might need to be sent packing. Although ultimately it is Parliament who determines the monarch; see the 1701 Act of Succession.
1 posted on 12/02/2014 11:06:51 AM PST by C19fan
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Richard III was defeated in battle and overthrown. No relative of his has any right to the thrown. You’d have a better chance restoring the monarchy in France.


2 posted on 12/02/2014 11:13:15 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: C19fan
who knows? Maybe it will turn out that this guy is the new king.
3 posted on 12/02/2014 11:13:18 AM PST by fhayek
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Dumbest idea I’ve heard.

Garbage story and probably garbage science.


4 posted on 12/02/2014 11:14:34 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: fhayek

Whoopsie...


5 posted on 12/02/2014 11:14:46 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: C19fan
I will hesitantly and uneasily come forward and claim the crown and the hundreds of billions of pounds that go with it.
6 posted on 12/02/2014 11:15:19 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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BO is, already, King, so, give him to the U.K. Let the U.S. elect Ted Cruz to become the next POTUS!


7 posted on 12/02/2014 11:16:55 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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Watch, it’ll end up being John Goodman.


8 posted on 12/02/2014 11:17:29 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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John of Gaunt had a mistress, Katherine deRoet, from whom the Beauforts descended. (Katherine’s sister, Phillipa, was married, unhappily, to Geoffry Chaucer) Katherine was John’s mistress through two marriages and they married after the second wife’s death. The Church of England eventually gave full privileges to Katherine and John’s bastard children, the Beauforts, from whom the line has descended. (”Katherine” by Anya Seaton, is an entertaining novel covering the whole period)


9 posted on 12/02/2014 11:19:40 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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10 posted on 12/02/2014 11:27:25 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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Current British royal family is entirely German, from House of Hanover and Battenberg. No relation to House of York or Lancaster.


11 posted on 12/02/2014 11:36:16 AM PST by Argus
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Good Golly Miss Molly...


12 posted on 12/02/2014 11:36:29 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: gorush

I read that book in my ‘teens. John of Gaunt is one of the key figures of the period, a classic strongman.

Regarding the article, piffle. The connection between the Mountbatten-Windsors and the House of York is completely irrelevant. Parliament made William of Orange king, and Parliament made George of Hanover king.


13 posted on 12/02/2014 11:40:33 AM PST by Tax-chick (R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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To: Argus

Wasn’t George I the great grandson of James I?


14 posted on 12/02/2014 11:48:19 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Tax-chick

“Katherine Swynford” by Alison Weir is a more scholarly treatise on the same subject, also worth the read IMHO. (My interest stems in part from my relationship to the deRoet family and part from my love of the study of history...that and $2.00 will get me a cuppa tea anywhere)


15 posted on 12/02/2014 11:48:42 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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my relationship to the deRoet family

Cool! I'm related to Black Jack Pershing.

I read all the historical novels about the queens by Victoria Holt and the Anya Seton ones, when I was a girl, but I haven't picked up many of the more recent biographies.

However, a recent book about Anne Boleyn gave the impression that there's little more fact to the "nonfiction" books than the fiction, because the sources are so limited.


16 posted on 12/02/2014 11:54:27 AM PST by Tax-chick (R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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Weir’s book makes that same point about the dearth of information. It all occurred during the great plague outbreaks in Europe in the 14th and 15th centuries.


17 posted on 12/02/2014 11:57:32 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Tax-chick

The Gaunt in John of Gaunt actually referred to Gent, Belgium. The deRoet’s came from that area. Today, here, the name is Roets.


18 posted on 12/02/2014 12:03:55 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

It was very interesting to read about the sources: what little objective documentary evidence existed, and how sources from a hundred years or more later, with no particular authority, became “facts” about Anne Boleyn, just because they were “old” when the next writer came along.


19 posted on 12/02/2014 12:05:36 PM PST by Tax-chick (R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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To: gorush

Huh, I didn’t know that, although I had a vague memory that Katherine and Philippa were from somewhere in continental Europe.


20 posted on 12/02/2014 12:13:42 PM PST by Tax-chick (R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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