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Michael Brown autopsy: No signs of struggle in fatal shooting
la times ^ | 8-18-2014 | MOLLY HENNESSY-FISKE, MATT PEARCE

Posted on 08/18/2014 10:13:52 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

A preliminary autopsy commissioned by the family of Michael Brown suggests that there was no sign of a struggle in his death, and that all but one of at least six gunshot wounds in his body were likely survivable, according to Dr. Michael Baden, a renowned New York forensic pathologist who performed a private autopsy after a Ferguson, Mo., police officer killed the unarmed, black 18-year-old.

Baden said in his preliminary autopsy that he believes Brown would not have been able to survive the bullet that hit at the top of his head and traveled through his brain.

Appearing Monday before reporters in the sanctuary of the Greater St. Mark Family Church in St. Louis, Baden and three of the family’s attorneys went through the diagram of Brown’s wounds that was released with the autopsy.

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To: tanknetter

exactly. His face down position indicates he was moving forward when shot.


61 posted on 08/18/2014 10:50:30 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Citizen Zed
A preliminary autopsy commissioned by the family of Michael Brown suggests that there was no sign of a struggle in his death...

I stopped reading right there. Let's wait for the official report from someone that may not be politically motivated.

62 posted on 08/18/2014 10:50:41 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Citizen Zed
I'm not sure why we're splitting hairs here when the 'victim' is now known to have violently robbed a convenience store minutes earlier?

Have we lost our flippin' minds? (Purely rhetorical question, of course).

63 posted on 08/18/2014 10:51:53 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: moovova

I noticed that your wheel is missing this....

Hit so hard in the face that his eye socket is broken and the perp is just a blur.


64 posted on 08/18/2014 10:53:16 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: EDINVA
I believe that is exactly what happened. He turned around and started to rush the cop, forcing the cop to empty his gun on him. The cop has no obligation to let the giant get to him before shooting any more than a person is obligated to let a lion get to him before shooting. Once you sense you are going to be attacked by something capable of killing you easily once it gets to you, you start you assault as soon as possible to end the threat before they reach you.
65 posted on 08/18/2014 10:53:25 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

” Brown would not have been able to survive the bullet that hit at the top of his head and traveled through his brain”

Don’t know why...Sounds like that particular organ was not put to much use.


66 posted on 08/18/2014 10:54:20 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: kidd

yeah. I agree...He was not down when that shot was fired.

He would have been on his feet but head lowered and the body angle would have been leaning forward as if in a head first charge or tackle.

I think also that the distance to the officer would have been something like ten to 15 feet...more or less.

Had he been down, the shot would have been to the back or side of the head.

So he had to have been head down, forward leaning and fairly close...


67 posted on 08/18/2014 10:54:40 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: ealgeone

“Baden said his examination suggested that none of the six bullets was fired at point-blank range, but all were fired from at least one to two feet away.”

Nobody knows what “point blank” is any more.


68 posted on 08/18/2014 10:54:58 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Citizen Zed

It is strange that all of the bullets that struck the arm did not come out the other side.


69 posted on 08/18/2014 10:56:17 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: HiJinx

Yeah, but both Gabby Giffords and Joe biden are dim dem dumb politicians. Brain damage is a feature not a bug.


70 posted on 08/18/2014 10:56:38 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: DBrow; ealgeone
Baden made that point-blank statement because of the absence of power burns on the body of Brown.
71 posted on 08/18/2014 10:56:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: ColdOne

Senile Dr. Baden strode there and said one round went in his head, came out his eyeball and re-entered his freakin arm before returning to re-enter his arm again . WTF? Foolish old man


72 posted on 08/18/2014 10:57:04 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: BunnySlippers
So how many autopsy’s are going to be done before we get the facts?

I think we have to realize that the media might be trying to influence the public by deciding how to 'report' Baden's findings.

We are lied to so often by our media that finding the truth is like searching for one particular grain of sand on a 20 mile long beach.

73 posted on 08/18/2014 10:57:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: areukiddingme1
what do you think Brown would have done to a female police officer if he got close enough to her

Would the female officer be black or non-black ?

74 posted on 08/18/2014 10:59:25 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: atc23

How much is Baden getting paid and who is paying him?


75 posted on 08/18/2014 10:59:45 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: wiggen

“If a foot isn’t point blank then what is.”

Point blank is the range at which the projectile drops below line-of-sight an equal amount as it rose above line-of-sight. It depends somewhat on the zero point (line of sight intersects with target), but point blank is the range within which vertical miss is defined by a few inches up or down from the line of sight.

For a .223, this can be 200+ yards if the zero is at 100 yards. Less for a handgun.

The antis and “journalists” think it means really really close, when actually it can be within a football field or two.


76 posted on 08/18/2014 11:00:12 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Citizen Zed

I want to know about the knuckles on his hands. I realize it’s a rumor, but I heard the cop was treated for a broken eye socket. Regardless, he his face did sustain a beating.


77 posted on 08/18/2014 11:00:17 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: Kartographer

Yep. There are some that hate the police even though they have the thankless job of cruising hellholes like Ferguson. We need all the facts. Could be the police action was perfectly justified OR could have been excessive. It all depends on what Brown was doing at the time - charging or kneeling?


78 posted on 08/18/2014 11:02:56 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: TexasFreeper2009
First reports were that the officer yelled "I'm gonna kill you."

Something I have said myself, but only for a reason.

What would make the officer say something like that ?

Especially since he appears to be the type who would not just say that casually.

If someone hit me so hard that my brain was spinning round in my head, I know what the next words out of my mouth would be.

I might not kill them, but I would certainly make sure they were at least unconscious.

79 posted on 08/18/2014 11:03:57 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: MeganC
"Myself, I'm just holding Officer Wilson to the same standard he'd apply to everyone else. Meaning that if you or I shot an unarmed person six times and twice in the head then we'd be under arrest and we'd have already been arraigned and looking forward to 'splainin' ourselves in court. Support the cops all you want, but if you were to trade places with Officer Wilson you'd be up sh*t creek without a paddle and you know it."

That all depends on the state your in. Here in Texas you have a right to defend yourself, others and your property. Lots of unarmed home invaders have been "put in the hole" in self defense.

80 posted on 08/18/2014 11:04:00 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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