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To the Christians who think 50 Shades is all sorts of awesome: Please, stop and THINK
LIFE SITE NEWS ^ | Jonathon van Maren

Posted on 07/31/2014 1:54:53 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: Opinionated Blowhard
There is nothing liberating about what the book describes and the movie suggests. Its just boring once the titillation wears off. But for the brief moment that the titillation exists, they are going to try to sucker the public into paying to see it.

There is an radio Talk show hosts that talks about the problems of porn addiction. One of the most serious is that the thrill does wear off and you need a fix that is more perverse to get the same thrill. Consequently what begins as voyeurism escalate in a short period of time to BDSM.

81 posted on 08/01/2014 2:41:47 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: redgolum
It is bondage rape porn. Bondage rape porn that is for some reason celebrated as “woman’s porn”. Chew on that for a bit.

Having read the wiki plot summary, the book is a woman's fantasy on many levels. A college senior who works at a hardware store hooks up with a handsome, 27-year-old billionaire entrepreneur, who dominates her, showers her with presents, and becomes totally obsessed with her.

Look at women's romance novels and note how many are about some wealthy/powerful man who falls for some ordinary woman. How many of them involve the woman being "ravished" by the dominant man who just cannot control himself in his desire for her.

This has been going on "under the radar" for a VERY long time.

82 posted on 08/01/2014 2:55:17 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: TightyRighty
" I simply refuse to apologize or be ashamed of the things my husband and I of twenty years do in bed together"

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83 posted on 08/01/2014 3:02:35 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: wagglebee

somewhere, more than a year ago I saw a comment to
the effect that the real purpose, or one of them of
the Fifty Shades “book” was to promote political
submission; I regret I cannot give credit.


84 posted on 08/01/2014 3:05:24 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: Morgana

Maybe the author misunderstood when the defenders of the book claimed to be Christian. Sounds like they might have just been identifying with the character in the book.


85 posted on 08/01/2014 3:24:17 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: wagglebee

I was speaking in terms of the general population accepting LGBT activism not FR. But I do find it curious that while most here (I think) claim to be okay with gays ‘keeping it to themselves’ they are not quite as tolerant of heterosexual fantasies.

Overall this Fifty Shades thing strikes me as more of a feminist/pc controversy. They hate that a fictional woman dares to want to play a ‘submissive’ role. Introducing the ‘how Christian is it?’ angle is a red herring for whether it deserves special scorn. It isn’t particularly more or less antichristian than typical trashy romance novels nobody cares to think about.


86 posted on 08/01/2014 4:59:34 PM PDT by jarwulf
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87 posted on 08/01/2014 5:08:04 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: jarwulf
There are no, "gays", there are people who have a disordered sexual desire and are attracted to the same sex. At best, they're stricken with more obvious form of sin all men (as in mankind) suffer from, and in general parlance for several hundred years at least they've been known as queers when they act out their disorder.

Changing what you call a disorder that leads to disgusting, anti-Christ, anti-Christian, perversion doesn't change what the resulting perversion really is.

Just so you're aware of the facts as opposed to the popular fantasy.

88 posted on 08/01/2014 5:58:18 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Morgana
I think Fifty Shades of Ghey, along with the Pretty Boy Felon, are state’s exhibits in the case that women can be just as shallow as men.
89 posted on 08/01/2014 6:33:00 PM PDT by RichInOC (Joe Biden walks into a bar...and wakes up in the hospital with a concussion.)
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To: CatherineofAragon; manc

I have stated so many times before, there is nothing gay about a male lifestyle of vectoring diseases, often by the fecal oral route with another sick male. The marketing of this monstrous public health threat can mostly be attributed to Hollywood.


90 posted on 08/02/2014 5:50:18 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: metmom

Don’t buy it. The male homosexual lifestyle is at the top of the list of threats to our children and public health.


91 posted on 08/02/2014 5:52:27 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I absolutely agree with you.

The argument I was using is that which I use when the subject is brought up in a non-Christian setting. It’s for people for whom the moral objections are meaningless.

That’s why it was preceded by *If*.

This country was at its greatest when a whole bunch of stuff that is legal now was illegal, thus defeating the argument that making moral stuff like that legal has no ramifications.

It does because it never was about simply lifestyle choices, but rather about tearing down the moral fabric of our society.

Their argument of what we do in the privacy of our own bedrooms is nobody’s business was the first step on the slippery slope and a whole bunch of people who were wusses and didn’t want to be accused of being *intolerant* caved.

And look where we are now.


92 posted on 08/02/2014 7:23:36 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

How sexy. An S&M porn flick for Valentines Day! How far this society has fallen.


93 posted on 08/02/2014 8:12:11 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: metmom
This country was at its greatest when a whole bunch of stuff that is legal now was illegal, thus defeating the argument that making moral stuff like that legal has no ramifications.

It does because it never was about simply lifestyle choices, but rather about tearing down the moral fabric of our society.

Their argument of what we do in the privacy of our own bedrooms is nobody’s business was the first step on the slippery slope and a whole bunch of people who were wusses and didn’t want to be accused of being *intolerant* caved.

And look where we are now.

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I could not agree more. Well said.

94 posted on 08/02/2014 8:15:35 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

EXACTLY.
My Doc has virtually said the same thing about them .


95 posted on 08/02/2014 3:18:32 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: jarwulf
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled To the Christians who think 50 Shades is all sorts of awesome: Please, stop and THINK, jarwulf wrote:
If we’ve decided that LBGT relationships are none of our business we have absolutely no justification getting in the way of someone elses adult consensual BDSM relationship just because we think its weird and creepy. Frankly most of the anger toward these books is from puritanical feminists who feel every single woman, even all the fictional ones must behave like their idea of an assertive brash dominant ‘real woman’.
When did "we" decide that "LBGT relationships are none of our business"?
96 posted on 08/03/2014 10:30:17 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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