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Evidence Found for Undiscovered Comet That May Threaten Earth
Space.com ^ | 7/27/11 | Mike Wall

Posted on 07/28/2011 8:51:45 AM PDT by LibWhacker

A surprise meteor shower spotted in February was likely caused by cosmic "bread crumbs" dropped by an undiscovered comet that could potentially pose a threat to Earth, astronomers announced today (July 27).

The tiny meteoroids that streaked through Earth's atmosphere for a few hours on Feb. 4 represent a previously unknown meteor shower, researchers said. The "shooting stars" arrived from the direction of the star Eta Draconis, so the shower is called the February Eta Draconids, or FEDs for short.

The bits of debris appear to have been shed by a long-period comet. Long-period comets whiz by the sun very infrequently, so it's tough to predict when they last cruised through our neck of the woods — and when they'll come back, researchers said.

That uncertainty is cause for some concern in this case, they added. [Close Encounters of the Comet Kind]

"If the meteoroids can hit us, so can the comet," said FEDs discoverer Peter Jenniskens, of the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute and NASA's Ames Research Center. "We don’t know whether the comet has already passed us by or is still on approach."

Still, Jenniskens stressed that the chances of such a collision are extremely remote.

Scanning the night sky

Jenniskens heads the Cameras for Allsky Meteor Surveillance (CAMS) project, which has been monitoring the San Francisco Bay Area's night skies with low-light video cameras in an effort to map meteor showers.

CAMS cameras picked up the FEDs, bringing the tally of officially recognized meteor showers to 64.

The comet that produced the meteor shower is unknown. It may have last zipped by the sun just a few hundred years ago, or many thousands, researchers said. But it apparently came relatively close to Earth on its last trip through the inner solar system. [Comet Dive-Bombs Sun During Big Solar Eruption]

At that time, the comet released a cloud of dust, which is now making its own way around the sun.

"Earth gets hosed typically only once or twice every 60 years by such streams," Jenniskens said. "The stream of dust is always there, but quite invisible just outside of Earth’s orbit. Only when the planets steer the dust in Earth’s path do we get to know it is there."

Learning more about the comet

Jenniskens teamed up with a colleague, Finnish astronomer Esko Lyytinen, to investigate when the FEDs might have another encounter with Earth. Lyytinen calculated a possible return in 2016 or 2023, and after that not again until 2076, researchers said.

Whenever the FEDs show up again, astronomers will study them closely. Future observations of the shower may reveal key information about its parent comet — including whether or not it poses a real danger of ever slamming into Earth.

However, it can be tough to gauge a comet's path based on how its sloughed-off pieces are moving around the solar system.

"The bits from the comet are not subjected to the same forces that the comet is," said Bill Cooke, head of the Meteoroid Environment Office at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala.

Dusty comet debris is affected primarily by things like radiation pressure and gravity, explained Cooke, who was not part of the FEDs discovery team. But comets' orbits are more of a wild card, since the icy wanderers tend to spawn gaseous jets as they approach the sun and begin heating up. These jets can have a big impact on comet trajectories.

"That's why tracking a comet can be quite a tricky business," Cooke told SPACE.com.

Don't worry too much

Despite the uncertainty, Cooke said the public shouldn't get into a panic about a potential "doomsday comet."

"Does this shower indicate that a comet's going to whack Earth? I kind of doubt it," he said. "I don't think you can infer from this meteor stream that the parent comet is in a potentially hazardous orbit."

Jenniskens as well urged some perspective, drawing on history as a guide.

"Chances are very small that the comet will actually hit us, as such impacts are rare in Earth’s history," he said.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: asteroids; billcooke; bread; catastrophism; comet; comets; crumbs; eskolyytinen; evidence; februaryetadraconids; feds; godsgravesglyphs; longperiodcomet; meteor; meteoroids; meteors; nasa; peterjenniskens; seti; shower; undiscovered
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Interesting discussion of "bread crumbs," but an unfortunate choice of titles... Hey, astrodudes, people are sick of the constant drumming up of these "threats," however vanishingly unlikely they are. So cut it out, already! Don't you know socialist weasels will seize on every threat, real or imagined, without fail, to take away more of our freedoms? You're not doing yourselves, or humanity, any favors crying wolf all the time... Capice? /soapbox
1 posted on 07/28/2011 8:51:50 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Elenin? Or something behind it?

We’ll know by October 18th, how close it gets and the effects


2 posted on 07/28/2011 8:54:13 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: LibWhacker

Bah, I’ll worry about it when it is going to definitely hit...given the nature of how our current government is trying to destroy America, hell, it might be a good thing.... /s =.=


3 posted on 07/28/2011 8:59:31 AM PDT by cranked
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To: LibWhacker

and next weeks weather is going to be??????


4 posted on 07/28/2011 9:01:22 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: LibWhacker
Evidence Found for Undiscovered Comet That May Threaten Earth

There's about as much chance as getting a black man in The White House. Wait, what?

5 posted on 07/28/2011 9:01:58 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: LibWhacker
Whenever the FEDs show up again, astronomers will study them closely

When the "FED"s show up with their debt requests, the figures will be astronomical...

6 posted on 07/28/2011 9:03:24 AM PDT by mikrofon (To the Gov't, spending 1T$ is a "light year")
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...but an unfortunate choice of titles...

Ever since Watergate, the trade has gone down hill.

7 posted on 07/28/2011 9:08:52 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: LibWhacker

The sky is falling!

I’m not going to worry over what may or may not happen a decade from now. Just let me know the day ahead of impact so I can finish off the bonbons.


8 posted on 07/28/2011 9:16:20 AM PDT by bgill
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To: LibWhacker

Incoming !!!!


9 posted on 07/28/2011 9:29:18 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao << >> with a floating, shifting, ever changing)
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To: LibWhacker

“long-period comets whiz by the sun very infrequently.” Thank goodness. Those comets have big bladders and might put out the sun.


10 posted on 07/28/2011 9:37:21 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: LibWhacker

Most likely the comet head has evaporated. There are tens of thousands of telescopes around the world looking for comets.


11 posted on 07/28/2011 9:53:55 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: SunkenCiv

Nigh tan day ping.


12 posted on 07/28/2011 10:22:35 AM PDT by decimon
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To: cranked
...given the nature of how our current government is trying to destroy America, hell, it might be a good thing....

You and me are on the same page.

13 posted on 07/28/2011 10:42:09 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: silverleaf

Elenin? Or something behind it?


Sounds like it might be one of the little guy’s friends.
We have a bunch of NEO coming in.


14 posted on 07/28/2011 12:26:31 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
Note: this topic is from 7/28/2011. Thanks LibWhacker.



15 posted on 08/23/2013 5:23:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: texmexis best

Or it is very far away. It isn’t in sight and “[it] may have last zipped by the sun just a few hundred years ago, or many thousands...”

So I read that to mean it is hundreds or thousands years away form coming back.


16 posted on 08/23/2013 5:29:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: texmexis best
Most likely the comet head has evaporated...

I guess that means it'll vote Democrat.

17 posted on 08/23/2013 5:31:36 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: faucetman
and next weeks weather is going to be??????

Damn hot!


18 posted on 08/23/2013 5:39:52 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
This topic was posted 07/28/2011, thanks LibWhacker.
It was a twofer, this is a re-ping.



19 posted on 11/21/2022 10:01:54 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: LibWhacker

For the most part, the astronomical community has been very responsible and subdued about the threat from celestial objects, despite efforts from the popular press to drum up hysteria, like they did for Covid and Global Warming. Astronomy is such a fascinating and difficult enough field of study that it hardly requires lurid press for attention.


20 posted on 11/21/2022 10:10:08 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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