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Sun and moon 'set off deep tremors on San Andreas fault'
dailymail.co.uk ^ | Dec.24, 2009 | David Derbyshire

Posted on 12/26/2009 11:36:52 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

For thousands of years astrologers have claimed that disasters are foretold in the movement of the planets.

Now a new study suggests they might be right.

Scientists have discovered that the faint gravitational tug of the sun and moon can set off tremors deep underground in one of the world's most dangerous earthquake zones.

Although the pull of planetary objects is too weak to set off a full blown quake, the findings suggest that they could set in motion a chain of events, leading to devastation on the surface.

The findings come from a study of the San Andreas Fault - the infamous crack in the ground which triggered the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and the deadly fires that followed.

The fault marks the boundary of the Pacific and North America tectonic plates and runs 800 miles from the southern California desert to northern California.

American earthquake experts compared records of 2,000 small tremors in the Parkfield region 170 miles north west of Los Angeles with the movement of the sun and moon over eight years.

The same gravitational tugs that create the tides, also trigger small tremors that originate around 15 miles below the ground, the team report tomorrow in the science journal Nature.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: catastrophism
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1 posted on 12/26/2009 11:36:52 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Seems like a logical conclusion to me.


2 posted on 12/26/2009 11:42:54 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Nahh, it's all the CO2 from those d@mn SUVs.

Cheers!

...and Merry Christmas.

3 posted on 12/26/2009 11:45:17 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
There must exist some type of equilibrium between all things and it must constantly adjust.

We think of the world as more or less orderly (the sun rises in the east and sets in the west) but every day brings some type of chaos...Look at the Phillipine Volcano...

Since all things must be connected, I can see their theory as quite possible.

4 posted on 12/26/2009 11:53:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: grey_whiskers

Merry Christmas to you and all my Freeper friends!


5 posted on 12/26/2009 11:57:04 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY (Live Free Or Die)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Makes sense to me. A friend of mine is a sexton for many of the local cemetaries and he swears there are predicable tides in the earth. He says the best time to backfill a grave is at “low tide” because he can get more earth back into the hole.


6 posted on 12/26/2009 12:13:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
For thousands of years astrologers have claimed that disasters are foretold in the movement of the planets. Now a new study suggests they might be right. Scientists have discovered that the faint gravitational tug of the sun and moon

Neither of which is a planet.

I believe this has been conventional wisdom for decades. When a quake is trembling on the edge, tidal forces are likelly to push it over.

7 posted on 12/26/2009 12:13:44 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In Los Angeles earthquakes are called looting day.


8 posted on 12/26/2009 12:14:35 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Moving of th’ earth brings harms and fears,
Men reckon what it did and meant,
But trepidation of the spheres,
Though greater far, is innocent.

- John Donne, A Valediction Forbidding Mourning, Verse III


9 posted on 12/26/2009 12:44:44 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: cripplecreek

Earth tides are very, very small. Sounds more like confirmation bias to me.


10 posted on 12/26/2009 12:46:46 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: cripplecreek
Makes sense to me. A friend of mine is a sexton for many of the local cemetaries and he swears there are predicable tides in the earth. He says the best time to backfill a grave is at “low tide” because he can get more earth back into the hole.

Precise orbit predictions (among other things) take account of solid tides, which are a slight bulge of the Earth in response to lunar and solar gravity. It's not a huge effect, but it matters.

I could see your friend's story being right; and this article makes sense in that context.

11 posted on 12/26/2009 12:49:05 PM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

Its not a big difference but enough for someone with nearly 30 years of experience to recognize.


12 posted on 12/26/2009 12:54:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Congress needs to get busy and start regulating these heavenly bodies.


13 posted on 12/26/2009 1:13:18 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is not science. How can it be tested? We cannot remove the remove the presence of the moon and the sun to attempt to falsify this hypothesis. The tidal presence of both are a constant variable that may or may not have a relationship to tectonic movement (probably does) but how do we prove it? At this juncture, it is only a conjecture, perhaps an observation of a correlation.


14 posted on 12/26/2009 2:33:23 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

Where,d that double “remove the” come from? Ah, well. . .


15 posted on 12/26/2009 2:40:26 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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...but how do we prove it?

&&&
Scientists usually do not claim to “prove” any hypothesis; an experiment has the capability merely of supporting said hypothesis.


16 posted on 12/26/2009 3:03:13 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Bigg Red
Scientists usually do not claim to “prove” any hypothesis; an experiment has the capability merely of supporting said hypothesis.

I know. So far, I have read three articles on this claiming the scientists have "shown" or "proved" that these mini quakes and tremors are being caused by by the sun and the moon. That is what I am challenging.

17 posted on 12/26/2009 5:46:50 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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But, you’re right, I should have phrased that “How do we disprove it?” which was the point of my post.


18 posted on 12/26/2009 6:04:22 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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19 posted on 12/26/2009 9:04:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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20 posted on 12/26/2009 9:08:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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