The Astronaut on a hillside
The Monkey
TheSpider
Posted on 02/15/2009 3:59:53 PM PST by JoeProBono
The world we live in is full of mysteries and man has been searching answers for them from time immemorial. However, no matter how advanced science has become, there are still many mysteries that cannot be unravelled by science. They continue to baffle us. The famous Nazca lines of Peru, which are associated with the Incan civilization by some scientists, have become a great puzzle; no one has yet come up with an acceptable theory as to why the Nazca Indians who lived in this area between 300 BC and AD 800, have drawn them.
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The Astronaut on a hillside
The Monkey
TheSpider
Pingeroo
The Hummingbird
Did a vehicle
Fly along the mountain
And find a place to park itself
Park itself
PARK IT!
PARK IT!
Or did someone build a place
To leave a space
For such a thing to land?
(Parking)Arrow
Have been to nazca, and find these lines very intriguing.
Religious constructions are virtually always made so that people on the ground can appreciate them.
To motivate a society to draw lines they will *never* even be able to see tells me they were have been damn well sure someone WAS going to see them, e.g. they had seen something in the air enough times to make a profound impression on their society, such that they were willing to dedicate however many years to the nazca lines.
Others dispute this, and some ridicule ideas like mine, but I look at it from a point of view of ‘what motivates people to do something like this?,’
Exactly. The key is the point of view. I have not been to Nazca, but from what I have heard and read, the lines are not that noticeable when you are on the ground. You are correct when you way that there had to be something definite motivating these people to create something that could only be appreciated, or even really detected from a point of view that we don’t know how they could possibly have gotten to.
I have seen them a couple of times on TV. They have to be one of the strangest things I have ever seen.
The Nasca Lines are located in the Pampa region of Peru, the desolate plain of the Peruvian coast 400 km south of Lima. The Lines were first spotted when commercial airlines began flying across the Peruvian desert in the 1920's. Passengers reported seeing 'primitive landing strips' on the ground below.
Obviously it’s just like crop circles
some Mayans got together in a pub and decided to get some boards and chains and go make some giant drawings that could be seen only from the air
then go have a chuckle about the idiots who would infer a connection to UFO’s
The lines were not notable until about 1930 when someone flew over them and realized they actually represented figures. I believe they were drawn as navigation aids to someone, but who is anyone’s guess.
“I have not been to Nazca, but from what I have heard and read, the lines are not that noticeable when you are on the ground.”
The only thing that I could see from the ground were straight lines/rays. Interestingly, last I checked, some of this was visible on google earth, ~14.41’44S, 75.10’38W
LOL! There ya go!
Or they could have believed a god would see them from above. We often make the mistake of thinking primitave people were incapable of the visualizing and calculating required to do such things.
“Or they could have believed a god would see them from above. We often make the mistake of thinking primitave people were incapable of the visualizing and calculating required to do such things.”
Is there another example of this anywhere? Obviously everything is speculation, but I am not aware any other major religious constructions on the planet which were designed to be utterly invisible to everyone living there iow no payoff to the mortal authorities commanding it to be built. Maybe a mad theocrat took over the tribe for the years/decades over which the lines were built and caused this to happen.
I just try to work out the thought process - hey lets draw lines to god(s). After getting political approval (whatever form that was in) Well first they have to figure out how to draw them (moving the rocks around iirc), THEN figure out how to handle the drawing of complex geometric objects/animals without being able to see them (There are a few examples of mistakes being worked around in the lines), then corral enough people into doing it, year after year after year, with presumably no answer? My mind doesn’t see that scenario happening, even past the drawing of the first line.
but as I said, all we have is speculation. Nazca remains/goods do not shed any light on this, iirc.
I will add that the Nazca lines are one of the mysteries of the ancient world that continues to fascinate me, as one of the most obvious answers is only unacceptable because the related topic (UFO’s/things coming down from the sky) is involved. If there is a future world in which it is recognized by the State that UFO’s happen, then perhaps these will be looked at with somewhat different options.
The single most odd item I can recall at the moment is the Ark of the Covenant. So much of what is described in the old testament about it reads like bronze age people trying to describe very advanced technology. (ref - Hal Clement, who actually wrote sci-fi stories along these themes.)
There are a lot of earthen indian mounds here in the USA that are nothing more than low hills when seen from the ground. When they’re viewed from above we find that they’re animal shapes. They’re all across the midwest.
The only real difference is in scale but that can be explained by the fact that the Nazca makers didn’t have to deal with forests. Also there’s the fact that desert preserves these things better.
The Hopewell indians seem to have been especially active in making them.
are there pottery examples of nazca depiction of people? Wondering of the figure here is how they draw people on more conventional objects.
I was not aware of this. I will google hopewell/mounds etc. and take a look!
"Today the mound building cultures go under the names of Cahokia, Adena, Hopewell, and a number of other names. A number of famous parks and sites today are attributed to the mound builders, such as Monks Mound in Illinois and Serpent Mound in Ohio."
I’ve been to the serpent mound.
At 14 it just looked like a Grassy knoll to me.
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I’ve always been fascinated by Nazca.
Try finding that on Google maps if you can’t sleep.
EXCEEDINGLY PLAUSIBLE, TO ME.
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One of the classics is Ezekiel. For someone who had seen nothing more advanced than a chariot (if that), he did a first rate job of describing people using mechanical devices.
There was a great story back in the 60s titled "The Four-Faced Visitors of Ezekiel", wrtten by an engineer (not the later NASA guy). He gave an astounding/eye-opening interpretation of Zeke's "vision". The "creatures" were space-suited men and their four faces were: left side (face of a bull) were antenna (horns) for communication; right side (face of a lion) a respirator; fronts (face of an eagle and face of a man) a man waering a facemask breather).
The "wings" were four blades of a helicopter backpack. Zeke marveled that "when the wings turned, the men turned not" - blades were windmilling. Suddenly "wheels" appeared above the mens' heads (the "wings" disappeared - they are never mentioned the same time as the wheels). Zeke couldn't figure out if the "wheels" pulled the men up into the sky or if the men pushed them up. The mysterious "wheel within a wheel" is one that we've all seen on TV or in the movies or in real life. Remember the movies with the racing stagecoach and the "wheel within a wheel" illusion of the stagecoach's wheels - the same as watching chopper blades in motion?
Of all the interpretations of Zeke's experience, that one seemed the most logical. The hook comes in when trying to figure out who those advanced folks were in those pre-industrial days. Sounds like a violation of the first Star Trek's Prime Directive.
Goin’ to Montana soon; gonna be a dental floss tycoon.
The Incas lived in the mountains (Andes) to the north around AD 1400, and are thought to be culturally descended from nearby cultures/civilizations.
Your post reminds me of a Calvin and Hobbes comic strip where Calvin strings up Christmas lights on the roof of his house offering to sell to aliens his parents as slaves in exchange for a star cruiser.
"which are associated with the Incan civilization by some scientists
“Your post reminds me of a Calvin and Hobbes comic strip where Calvin strings up Christmas lights on the roof of his house offering to sell to aliens his parents as slaves in exchange for a star cruiser.”
I remember this strip!
“Of all the interpretations of Zeke’s experience, that one seemed the most logical.”
I had never read about this, thanks.
In the Amazon rainforest, there are miles of raised mounds forming lines in the middle of swampy land, thought to have been used both for agriculture and as roads by ancestors of the local Amerindians.
Maybe the Nasca lines makers were just their more artsy-fartsy cousins, and at that time the desert was more fertile. After all, Caral is considered to be the start of civilization in South America, and is now desert. So too with Egypt, even though when Egypt started, the country was wetter.
Just sort of joking. The Nazca lines are intriguing not only because of their extent, but also their shapes.
Here are some links, in any case, but without pretty pictures:
and a Wikipedia one:
Yeah, I caught that later. Mea culpa. I should have writtern "Why do some scientists..." rather than "Why does the author..."
I have read all of the links you posted; I have not read about this previously. It implies a much more active population in that part of the amazon in the pre-colombian era. In some cases they appear to have had some sort of dual-functions, if I read correctly.
That was my take on it, too.
and before the Inca (and just about anyone else since there are no earlier written records?) there were the Sumerians
whose drawings and descriptions depict figures that also look remarkably like “astronauts” or other world vistors, certainly their “gods and goddesses” came from the sky
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html
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