Posted on 12/03/2017 11:46:03 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian
The right was not sloppy. This illegal fired the weapon and then claimed it went off by itself. It just ‘happened’ to kill a young woman walking with her father.
Anyone, and I mean anyone, who has ever handled a gun, will know they don’t go off by themselves. And this was a stolen law enforcement weapon.
This is OJ redux. The jury decided based on SF values and ‘feelings’, feelings about the prosecutors versus the defense. The leftist streak that runs through denizens of SF is resistant to granting any concessions to a right-wing cause, just because.
This was all Donald Trump’s fault you see? Because Nazi Trump made Kate a campaign issue for his wall. No way gonna give him that one.
Don’t forget he also said he was “Firing at Seals”.
Hmmmm.
It’s felony murder: defendant was committing a felony, and somebody died as a result.
Slam dunk case. Don’t complicate it.
How was it determined the bullet struck the ground first? Camera? Witness?
“jury verdicts ...always respect them...”
I used to - however a jury of “peers” in this day and age, if comprised mostly of millennials, is very likely to be composed of publicly educated brainwashed atheistic Marxists. If those are my peers, then I never want to have to trust a modern day jury with deciding my fate.
If he hurt a seal he would have been convicted
Judge wouldn't even let the jury handle the weapon to see for themselves how easy/difficult it was to pull the trigger...
...and this was a defense request!
DAs do this all the time with cops charged with murder, and lose, so they can shield them, and the city, from civil financial exposure.
In one syllable terms, the DA went into the tank for the sanctuary city's policy.
Interesting theory, but how many people who wanted a conviction would complain if the killer weren't charged with murder one?
I don't doubt that you're right, but I can very easily imagine the outcry here and elsewhere on the Internet if the indictment were for a lesser charge.
Every child of normal intelligence over the age of 5 knows how a handgun works. The idea that this murdering SOB wouldn’t know what it was is more than ridiculous.
Fascinating theory. I had not heard of that strategy before.
For those of you who are interested, here’s a link to the user’s manual for the Sig-Sauer P226. Page 8 gives the firing and loading instructions, including how to use the decocking lever.
http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/FIREARMS/sig_p220to245.pdf
First of all there is no external safety. A shooter loads the weapon by inserting a loaded magazine in the bottom of the handle until it clicks home. Then he pulls the slide and releases it to chamber a round and cock the hammer (not a striker). At that point the pistol is ready to fire in single action mode. If the shooter wants to fire in double action mode, he presses the decocking lever. That resets the hammer so a much stronger DA pull is required to discharge the pistol.
This differs from the operation of my Beretta Model 96 in that the decocking lever on the Beretta is also a safety lever. When it is pulled, it decocks the hammer and deactivates the entire firing mechanism so the trigger is totally disconnected from the firing mechanism. Then, to activate the DA firing, the shooter moves the safety lever to the firing position. To get a single action first shot, he must also manually cock the hammer.
Moral of the story: it’s hard to talk about individual guns without the owners’ manuals in front of you.
I wonder how this would have turned out if pelousy’s daughter had been the victim?
Totally in agreement. The DA was under pressure to lose. To win would not be in line with SF/CA political elites and their policy. Why else would he not be wearing his thinking cap and come from a slightly different angle? For losing, what type of “bonus pay” will he be receiving?
Involuntary manslaughter is negligent homicide.
That's the subtle beauty of it. The DA has to stick out his lower lip and pout for the cameras, while he gets to keep his job. The Mayor's office gets what it wants, cover for their illegal "sanctuary city" policy, and the Island of Communism can blandly point to the Constitution, the laws of this country, and shrug.
The rest of the United States sorta takes it in the rectum, but since when have democrats ever given a flying f#ck about this country?
You’d have to believe so many fantasies not to go for murder! Guns go off by themselves! I was just shooting at seals! I found it in a t-shirt under a bench!
I have no doubt that the DA’s office messed up - perhaps, on purpose, to send a message to the president.
Color me cynical.
“Do you know what this is?” (holding up the gun).
“Yes, it is a handgun”.
“Do you know they can kill people?”
“Yes.”
“Why did you pick it up and point it in the direction of someone?”
That is manslaughter, right there.
I agree the prosecution overcharged. However, the dangerous guns stats are rubbish. If it were dangerous, police and military wouldn’t use it.
This guy handled a weapon he did not know how to use. He pointed it in the general direction of people and caused it to discharge. That is manslaughter. I would vote yes on that 100% of the time and sleep like a baby.
What difference does the price of gun make if it was stolen?
One question I have. Is it true that if a person commits a felony that results in death, isn’t that first degree murder?
A follow up to a yes then would be, if he was commiting a felony just having a gun in his possession, why was first degree murder an over reach?
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