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Have We Been Lied To About The Kate Steinle Case?
Red State ^ | November 30, 2017 | Sarah Rumpf

Posted on 12/03/2017 11:46:03 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian

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To: Lurking Libertarian

This was a horrible verdict. Here in CA we followed the case on all the radio shows and we did learn that the evidence did not leave any room for 1st or 2nd degree murder. She was killed by a ricochet.

But you cannot tell me that a man playing with a loaded gun on a crowded tourist pier gets ACQUITTED for the death he caused.

A person yelling fire in a crowded theater gets more of a penalty.


81 posted on 12/03/2017 4:23:13 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: goodnesswins

Yes, like another Freeper similarly said....if Kate had been a Spotted Owl, he’d be facing 20 years....


Wow, great line. How true.


82 posted on 12/03/2017 4:24:00 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: PIF

The jury was never told about his priors - any of it ... to them, he was just another innocent man being railroaded ...


THAT is one of the travesties. They didn’t know he had committed many prior and had been deported and sneaked back in 5 times.


83 posted on 12/03/2017 4:26:34 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Thanks for clearing that up for me


84 posted on 12/03/2017 4:27:11 PM PST by Jvette
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To: Lurking Libertarian

You can’t tell me that if I brought a sig Sauer into the movie theater tonight and bumped it accidentally and killed someone in there, that I should be acquitted.


85 posted on 12/03/2017 4:27:51 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I cannot agree without stipulation. All aspects of government can be abused, including trial by jury. When abused, they must be challenged! (Soviet Russia had trials too.)

The attorneys on both sides, the judge, the jury pool, all were firmly leftist by my estimation, producing the desired political outcome.

I opine that the prosecutor deliberately overreached in order to provide cover for the intended not guilty verdict.

I have witnessed too much from California generally, and San Francisco specifically, to accord any benefit of the doubt on motives and actions in such a landmark case held in such a communist enclave.


86 posted on 12/03/2017 5:03:00 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyonse's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I read the article yesterday: a quintessentially disingenuous fabrication to obfuscate the manifest truth that our judiciary has been radically compromised by ruthless collectivists.


87 posted on 12/03/2017 5:05:18 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyonse's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Why wasn’t he prosecuted for gun crimes?

Illegal possession and illegal discharge at least.


88 posted on 12/03/2017 5:08:26 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I have served on a criminal jury before. Not a murder case, but it was still difficult to do. We were nine people, who after 2.5 days, found the defendant not guilty.

I was the one of the last two to come around. We tried to “re-enact” the event in the jury room. I was eventually convinced he wasn’t guilty. The guy had a firearm and the gun went off. No one killed, but an assault charge was made. He claimed it went off accidentally. Had a public defender.

That being said, I don’t see how the guy wasn’t at least found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

Prosecution has a high bar, but this one seemed more open and shut.

Hope the feds can do a better job.


89 posted on 12/03/2017 5:12:27 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Having prosecuted criminals for 35 years I am pretty familiar with “the governing technicalities .”


90 posted on 12/03/2017 5:40:17 PM PST by Okeydoker
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70; Lurking Libertarian
Exactly. Most pistols (the technical term for a semi auto handgun) in the world are are Double Action (DA) aka Double Action / Single Action and have been for about the last century.

Apparently the authoress knows as little about guns as the poor innocent defendant.

Apparently she believes the defense's arguement that someone else stole the pistol from the fed's unlocked vehicle and discarded it in a very public place in view of cameras and the undocumented migrant found it in Condition 4 with the scary "hair trigger" enabled and it just "went off".

Let's get some "facts" straight.

The perp was not "confused" during interrogation. He is a career criminal that was "lieing".

Ms Stienle is dead because the perp pointed the gun at her and pulled the trigger.

The murderer was acquitted because:

A. The jury was racist and hates America.

B. The jury was stupid.

C.the prosecution was inept.

D. The prosecution didn't really want a conviction.

As a final note: If you were a subject of the Peoples Republic of CA and you had a loaded, unattended pistol stolen from your unlocked vehicle that was then used in a homicide you would be up S*** Creek.

91 posted on 12/03/2017 5:49:49 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Why wasn’t he prosecuted for gun crimes? Illegal possession and illegal discharge at least.

Read the article. He was prosecuted for illegal possession and convicted of that charge.

92 posted on 12/03/2017 6:36:25 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Read the article??? LOL!

All the article says is that he was convicted of being a felon in possession of a gun. Still seems light to me.


93 posted on 12/03/2017 9:52:47 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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