Posted on 01/04/2017 8:00:33 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Republicans are fast-tracking the process of repealing Obamacare, aiming to get it done in several weeks. But they’re not even close to agreement about what comes next — or even when the repeal should take effect.
Those disagreements spilled over Wednesday at a closed-door meeting with Vice President-elect Mike Pence that had been intended to unify the Senate GOP. Instead, multiple senators stood up to express concern that the party’s plans to repeal and replace the law could blow massive holes in the budget, according to a source familiar with the exchange.
Newly ascendant Republicans are reckoning with the reality that dismantling a nearly seven-year-old law that reshaped a $3 trillion health sector and covers millions of Americans is more daunting than simply campaigning against it.
“Most of the issues are with respect to replace,” Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) said of the disarray inside the caucus. “I don’t think repeal is that complicated. We’ve done that once. But yes there are budgetary considerations when it comes time to replace. It’s complicated, we’ve got a lot of moving parts.”
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repeal it. all of it. on the first day.
What is the reason that Congress and/or We The People aren’t 100% behind a Free Market solution to this problem?
The Socialists did their best to completely destroy Health Care As We Knew It, banking that We The People would cave and BEG them for Single-Payer, Socialist Medical Care once Cankles was in office. *SPIT*
I don’t have a horse in this race as I get my healthcare through the VA, BUT - where are the voices of reason on this? Why can’t we buy policies across state lines?
Does Big Pharma and Big Insurance truly have a stranglehold on our economy? Have they NOT figured out how to make money off of we Turnips any way we turn?
I find that VERY hard to believe.
Silliness.
It will be repealed with a 2 yr delay. Then they will fight over what happens next.
blah blah govt has no business in health care blah blah. Right. Which of you is going to take Medicare from your parents? Didn’t think so.
Go back to what we had before? What did we have before? I’ll tell you. We had 8 fewer years of medical inflation. It’s 8 yrs later and costs are MUCH HIGHER.
Something will have to be the replacement, and it ain’t going to be nothing at all. Learn about inflation and then go find someone who can pay that out of pocket AND continue to vote GOP.
Why can’t we buy across state lines? Because each state has an insurance commission and regulates things in their own state. Want to make that Federal? Okie doke, now you’re growing a Federal bureaucracy for regulation, which no doubt conservatism will say must be done away with — at which time insurance companies will demand their costs be bailed out when the changes are imposed on them.
Well, there’s THAT, LOL!
But I can buy car and home and life insurance through any company I want to - what is different about health insurance?
obamacare is evil. period. it’s killing people. period. people like you are the problem. period.
How can we suppose we are making insurance and medical care "more affordable" when we increase exponentially the number of government and private bureaucrats that have to be paid for? Those folks don't work for free.
Hogwash. You know why computers don’t shoot up in price? There is constant innovation, other companies trying to outdo one another. You goto a store and you see a computer for $1000 and you compare it against others that cost relatively the same. If you see that 99% costs $1000 and 1% costs $100,000 then the $100,0000 computers will eventually not be able to be sold and will go out of business unless they find a way to make it $1000 or less. Moreover, you can go online and buy a computer from China that is comparable but may cost less. The constant competition is FORCING companies to innovate and become more efficient. NONE of this is true in healthcare so they are all crooks! How much does a knee surgery costs? “Whatever we charge”. $50,000 to deliver a baby?!?! Fine, i’m changing my insurance company, “Sorry you can’t, we’re the only ones in the state”. I should be able to google the costs of a surgery just like I can google the costs of a cell phone and then compare prices. That doesn’t happen with “healthcare” though. It’s a huge scam at this point. Insurance companies cover nothing and they do everything to ensure that they never pay out. It’s all a scam. Doctors should be required to publish prices for each service, allow insurance across state lines and the prices will necessarily come down. 2 or 3 regulations. If that doesn’t work, add more until it does work. You don’t have to control everything in order for it to work. Also, you don’t have to pretend you know how to make it work. Set the playing field and let the system work; tweak as necessary
The only way out of Obamacare is nationalization.
It was very well designed for its purpose.
i agree. basically, all of our problems with medicine can laid at the doorstep of gov’t interference.
that being said, we basically need to put doctors and patients back in charge of medicine. in the current system, they have almost zero influence.
getting gov’t out, getting the non-paying actors out (illegals etc), and getting the lawyers under control will vastly deflate costs.
Get government totally out of the healthcare business...health care costs come down at least 60% and Social Security recipients can buy a health policy with their SS check. (~$100. p/p per month). Eliminating Medicare/Medicaid/MediCal would save a trillion dollars per year so the Feds could probably even raise SS payments to help out with the policy cost.
Why on earth do the Feds need to get involved??
Insurance isn’t the problem. It’s cost of care. If hospitals and doctors had balls they’d form a cartel, control prices, and stop giving out treatment for free. It’s the ferals running to the ER every time they stub a toe that drives up costs.
>>>But I can buy car and home and life insurance through any company I want to - what is different about health insurance
When you buy health insurance, you are buying into achess to a group of doctors and hospitals. That’s different from auto insurance where theyou write you a check and you choose where you want to get your car fixed. Similarly, homeowners insurance doesn’t tie you to a specific group of contractors, plumberso and electricians. It would be difficult for someone with an office in Nevada to have a network in a state such as Alabama that could compete with existing insurers in Alabama.
I don’t think thats feasible. They will have one chance to get it right. Besides you’d have chaos in that industry. They need a plan to implement of their own. We don’t need to make a winning issue for the Dems in the next election. And truthfully it’s not like the insurers will rollback prices on their own.
I’m dealing with medical issues of my own. My condition caused me to get a hernia that popped out of the stomach wall. Sucker was painful. But anyway i’m rushed to hospital where they give me pain killers. A doctor comes by, feels the spot and knows exactly what the issue is. He massaged my intestines back in past my stomach wall. I was there maybe 5-6 hours. The bill was over 20,000. No surgery. Meds, a bed, and pushing my guts back in. $20,000+. Why? because they have to treat everyone who walks in regardless of ability to pay. So you and I and millions other make up that difference. They need to get it right because this story is the reality and it can’t continue.
>>>Get government totally out of the healthcare business...health care costs come down at least 60% and Social Security recipients can buy a health policy with their SS check. (~$100. p/p per month).
I don’t think you will find too many insurance companies will to cover a 75 year old male for 100 per month, especially if he had had heart issues or cancer in his past.
OK, then. I give up. Socialist Health Care for all, it is!
*Rolleyes*
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