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Finding a new formula for concrete
MIT News ^ | May 25, 2016 | Jennifer Chu

Posted on 05/28/2016 11:29:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...reduce the carbon and energy footprint, and even enable us to sequester carbon dioxide as the material is made.

Doesn't sound like science to me. Sounds like Political Correctness searching for grant money.

41 posted on 05/29/2016 3:00:59 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

SLUMP TEST


42 posted on 05/29/2016 3:39:58 AM PDT by knarf
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To: Husker24

Roman concrete was so good it didn’t need re-bar in it. That’s good stuff.


43 posted on 05/29/2016 3:55:46 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I thought we had figured out the romans formula for concrete.

Same here - wonder if the show was rigged to make it seem better than advertised.

44 posted on 05/29/2016 3:56:48 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Kickass Conservative

LOL!!


45 posted on 05/29/2016 4:04:32 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If we can replace cement, partially or totally, with some other materials that may be readily and amply available in nature, we can meet our objectives for sustainability,” Buyukozturk says.


So there is no problem with concrete as it currently exists and is currently made other than the supposed problem of it not fitting in with the sustainability requirement.

Just to be clear: if you fall on concrete hard enough, your bones break, not the concrete.


46 posted on 05/29/2016 4:35:15 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’m curious, how does a sealer prevent cracking.

There are many reasons why cement cracks, a poor/wrong mix is one, how it cures, thickness is another, ground heaving, improper soil preparation, rebar placement and there are probably others.

Our ground up here moves a lot during the seasonal changes which is our number one reason for cracking. I knew guy that put zero rebar in a basement. After a year there were 1/2 inch gaps in the basement cracks.

To prevent cracking from ground heaving, a nearby air base runway, they removed the soil 8 feet down and back filled it with a uniform aggregate and compacted to a certain specification, then poured the concrete over it.


47 posted on 05/29/2016 4:56:02 AM PDT by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: central_va

Yes, It took us centuries to get back to where the Romans were. Pantheon dome uses heavy aggregates close to the drum, as the section moves up toward the oculus the aggregate gets progressively lighter (volcanic) - genius!
Greeks had them beat as far as beauty though.


48 posted on 05/29/2016 5:13:02 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

now...??....... they are thinking about using nanotech stuff?

i guess we are living at a snails pace , fast !


49 posted on 05/29/2016 5:33:35 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: Bobalu

Here too!


50 posted on 05/29/2016 5:36:00 AM PDT by jch10 (Hillary in the Big House, not the White House .)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

From a video I once saw, towards the top of the dome, they used small ceramic hollow balls as filler in the wall. This served to lighten the mass near the top.


51 posted on 05/29/2016 5:39:10 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: redfreedom

You want the water in concrete to hydrate not evaporate. The sealer locks in the water so it does not evaporate. Thus giving you stronger concrete and less micro voids from evaporation.
That being said too much water will also weaken the concrete. People add more water to make the mix more workable.
Concrete by its nature is strong in compression and weaker in tension. This is why re-bar is added for tensile strength.

Not an expert but many years in construction.


52 posted on 05/29/2016 5:52:53 AM PDT by Rik0Shay
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Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.

KEYWORDS: ancientconcrete; geopolymer; geopolymerization; geopolymers; josephdavidovits; pozzolana; pozzolano; romanconcrete

53 posted on 05/29/2016 7:45:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
LOL; we did figure it out:
the basic mixture of mortar can be made using the volume proportions of 1 water : 2 cement : 3 sand. Most of the student activities can be conducted using this basic mixture. Another "old rule of thumb" for mixing concrete is 1 cement : 2 sand : 3 gravel by volume. [Google]
54 posted on 05/29/2016 8:07:57 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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As Buyukozturk describes it, the “mesoscale” represents the connection between microscale structures and macroscale properties. For instance, how does cement’s microscopic arrangement affect the overall strength and durability of a tall building or a long bridge?

Microscale reinforcing rods? Great... and when the structure needs to be torn down and replaced>.. what then?

55 posted on 05/29/2016 8:55:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Clinton was impeached for LYING UNDER OATH in a SEXUAL HARASSMENT case NOT for an affair.)
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To: SunkenCiv

didn’t you post something once about ancient concrete being stronger than what we use today?


56 posted on 05/29/2016 9:03:11 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Rome2000

the article uses the generic term cement when as you have pointed out is Portland cement as opposed to say asphalt cement or epoxy cement

For those journqalists that don’t know the difference between cement and concrete, this article might be quite confusing.

lastly, the term “a random assemblage” is used by the authors when in truth Portland cement concrete for engineering structures is a carefully engineered product for a specific task.

The main ingredients are Portland cement and aggregate of various sizes that include rock (aka stone) and sand. Some would say the rock is aggregate. The size and amounts of the rock and sand particles are designed for the specific purpose of the concrete.

Additionally there are lots of various additives that are included by the engineering design to suit the need.

There are female engineers working on grants at more than MIT making a difference by checking out obsolete concrete formulations


57 posted on 05/29/2016 9:11:28 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: xzins

It’s in one or more of those keywords, and it happened more than once if memory serves. :’) I’ve visited most of those topics today, making sure the keywords were in order. :’)

Roman underwater concrete:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1380333/posts

...do as the Romans did:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3027618/posts

This one has a first sentence that will blow your hat right off!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2250645/posts


58 posted on 05/29/2016 9:39:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/stratlingite/index


59 posted on 05/29/2016 9:54:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: Husker24
Pozzolan


60 posted on 05/29/2016 10:41:11 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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