Posted on 11/26/2015 4:56:35 AM PST by HomerBohn
Though details remain murky, a Russian jet has been shot down and both pilots have reportedly been killed. According to Turkish officials, the jet crossed into their airspace and was warned numerous times before being shot-down. Russia says that the jet was over Syrian airspace.
What is clear is that both pilots ejected after their plane was hit. The following video shows rebel forces, presumably from the CIA funded Free Syrian Army, shooting at the pilots as they parachuted back to earth. It appears that both were killed on their descent.
Once on the ground, a second video shows rebels around the body of one of the Russian pilots chanting “Allahu Akbar†– or “God Is Great.â€
Video: Free Syrian Army forces shoot at parachuting Russian pilots:
(Watch videos at link)
Last week Chuck Norris warned that World War III started when ISIS-linked terrorists killed over a hundred people in Paris, France.
Today, amid much confusion as to who is on what side and why, NATO-aligned Turkey shot down a Russia military jet over what appears to be contested airspace, as both sides claim they were in the right.
The only question now is how Russia will respond. A direct military action against Turkey is out of the question for one simple reason: an attack on one is an attack on all, according to the NATO charter.
Karl Denninger of The Market Ticker explains:
Putin is*****ed off, but there’s really nothing he can do about it. Turkey is a NATO member, so any sort of military retaliation is off-the-board dangerous for him in that regard, and thus unlikely.
Further, it does appear that the plane not only violated Turkish airspace but ignored warnings to leave.
As with most acts when there’s a war on, the truth is one of the first casualties. But it makes no sense for Turkey to fire on a plane over Syrian airspace, so at face value this looks like an incursion (whether intentional or not) and, if you fly a military aircraft over someone’s airspace after being warned not to, and Turkey has made clear that this is unacceptable to them, you get the consequences up the ‘chute.
This will be an interesting diplomatic kerfluffle but I doubt it amounts to anything in terms of military or strategic importance.
Stay tuned.
Russia has two options. Either they strike back at Turkey and risk a confrontation with NATO allies. Or, as Denninger notes, they back off for now. The most likely outcome is the latter, but we can fully expect that Vladimir Putin will ramp up military engagements against Syrian rebels, including the Free Syrian Army going forward.
These are indeed the opening salvos of the next great war, but it may be months or years before the powder keg is finally detonated and all hell breaks loose.
To assume the Russians will “stay quiet†on this is sheer folly. No, they will nail Turkey hard. This IS World War III and it has already started a long time ago, during the “Arab Spring†that was fomented by the Obama Administration, they own this from the beginning.
deliberate
not feckless
This one is getting harder and harder to follow.
The Russians have lied to us for a century
The Turks, being majority Muslim are known liars
The Federals have been lying to us long before nObama.
Which begs the question;
Who do we believe?
It’s *all* on him.
He *did* “make that”.
A plague upon those who voted for this demon skinwalker.
he is the only one telling the truth hence he is vilified in the Press.
I would not rule out further military conflict between Russia and Turkey, specifically due to the establishment of a no-fly zone over Syria. If any Turkish aircraft enter that area, you can bet the rent the Russians will blast them out of the sky with a smile.
And I doubt that Putin is all that intimidated by NATO. He may bide his time, but he has already made the political calculation that in a true confrontation with Turkey, that NATO is not going to risk an escalation with the largest owner of nuclear weapons on the planet and that isn’t the U.S. anymore, thanks to Emperor Barky.
And if this situation worsens, there is also the possibility of Isaiah 17 being fulfilled, i.e., “The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.”
Damascus Syria is the longest constantly inhabited city on the face of the Earth. To suddenly see it decimated would be a shocker. Many people have presumed that Isaiah 17 alluded to a future nuking of Damascus by Israel, however I have been considering that it could refer to an accidental nuking by either Russia OR a deliberate act by ISIS if they were able to lay their hands on a nuclear device. Even some so-called ‘dirty bombs’ could disperse sufficient radioactive material to make the area uninhabitable.
“May you live in interesting times” said the Chinese author Feng Menglong.
Thanks Feng.
BRAVO, well said Mam!
(and Happy Thanksgiving)
Turkey being concerned about that border is not believeable. Does Turkey do anything to secure it when arms and soldiers for ISIS cross both ways at will?
But it is not Islam.
Old news superceded by reality. The “dead” pilot has already appeared on TV alive and well.
If only America had a president.
The last truly honorable and decent President was #40, Ronald Wilson Reagan. After the Gipper?
They were all fakes, frauds and liars.
The Russians said they rescued one of the pilots and took him to a hospital at the Russian air base.
“A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack” - Turkey’s Erdogan in 2012
I guess he changed his tune.
Turkiye, while not an ally of ISIS, hopes to benefit from ISIS and its Caliphate. The Turks believe the Caliphate belongs in Istanbul but are constrained from proclaiming it themselves. If the ISIS folks can get their Caliphate established and accepted generally then Turkey will undertake to move it and the new Caliph to Istanbul not without opposition from the Arabs.
Unless of course it's a country with a government a Democratic president doesn't like, in which case it's fine to bomb them and arm Muslim terrorists fighting the government.
How's it working for the US and our regime change partners, when they try to take over Libya, Afganistan, Iraq, and Kiev from the people who did the fighting for them?
It's insane. ISIS is pure evil. Yet it seems that the power structure of the world, instead of disintegrating them is saying "what's in it for us"?
DEMOCRAT
That is it.
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