Posted on 09/07/2015 2:18:27 PM PDT by z taxman
A few days ago when asked about the couragous stand of Kim Davis, Trump essentially came out in support of gay marriage. "Its the law of the land," he said. “I hate to see her being put in jail." Well, isn't that swell Trumpy, but he added “I understand what they’re doing. It would be certainly nice if she didn’t do it." Lets get this straight, while bold leaders like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee are coming out in support of Kim Davis and her religious stand of conscious, Trump is busy kowtowing to the gay mafia, turning an erroneous Supreme Court interpretation into the "law of the land". Of course this was brought to light immediately on FR. However, while there was some grumblings, most of those onboard the Trump train either glossed over the facts, became defensive and the usual (lack of) intelligent discussion took place.
When questioned about Obamacare at the first GOP debate August 6, Trump rambled and perpexingly came out in support of the single payer program they have in Canada and Scotland: "As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland." Yes Donald, single payer is working so well in Canada that they basically bustling over the border just to get the treatment they need here. Sure, Trump went on to check all the anti-Obamacare boxes in his response, yet it is the muddled up way he did so that ought to cause consternation. One has to wonder if it wasn't Obama himself who put the healthcare changes that are destroying the country forward, if it wouldn't be Trump himself who would do it. You see Donald, when offering a conservative critique of Obamacare, you don't start by praising the healthcare systems of Canada and Scotland. If he sought to make a conservative statement on the issue, he sounded more 'severely conservative' than anything else.
Now the big issue that propelled Trump (so far) is illegal immigration. To be sure, illegal immigration has been a giant problem for decades and kudos ought to be given to the man for bringing the discussion to the forefront of this presidential election. That said, his recent history on this topic is just as muddled as the other issues I have mentioned. Now, when bringing up Trump's liberal past, many Trumpians are quick to say 'that was years ago! The man has changed.' OK, sure I'll bite. However only three years ago, Trump hammered Romney for being to harsh on illegal immigrants, referring to Romney's stance on self-deportation for the illegals:
“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump told the conservative website NewsMax. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote. He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.” Trump went on to say, "The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump added. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.” Does this sound like the rhetoric of a conservative on illegal immigration? Mind you, no, this was not 10 years ago, this was as recent as the last election, when he had already had his Damascus moment and turned toward conservatism, supposedly.
Recently Trump has come on the populist side of things in regard to taxes, even Paul Krugman has come out in support of Trumps tax ideas... yes that Paul Krugman. In a Times op-ed, Krugman wrote that Trump is correct to embrace a tax hike on the rich and speak out in favor of universal healthcare. He added that conservatives — who are now slamming Trump’s proposals — were wrong to warn about the ill economic impacts of those policies ahead of the 2012 election. Keep in mind that Trump did once also propose the largest tax hike in U.S. history. Now Trump's tax hike idea isn't based on the wealthy carte blanche, but the small group of hedge fund managers who use a loophole to pay a lower tax rate on investment gains instead of income. However, his rhetoric is still jarring, "You've seen my statements. I do very well. I don't mind paying a little more in taxes. The middle class is getting clobbered in this country," he said. The statement boils down basically, tax the rich, they can afford it. Very liberal sounding. A better idea would be to lower the income tax tax to mirror the rate of investment gains. Or here's a novel idea, a flat tax!
All these recent examples of Trump's murky brand of conservtism ought to put anyone who is truly on the right on edge. Delving further back into Trump's past raises even more questions: support for automatic gun ban, support for the bank bailouts, support for the auto industry bailouts, support for abortion (hell, even this year he came out supporting Planned Parenthood saying that abortion constitutes hardly a fraction of what they do), support for Hillary (calling her very capable in 2007, and donating hundreds of thousands to her controversy ridden charity), Barack Obama ("What he has done is amazing," "He's a champion") and the Democratic Party.
So the question for conservatives is when is enough enough? Will we sell out and cave in on our values just because we want to see a wall built? If that's the case, the true price of the wall cant be quantified in dollars and cents, but in the corruption of our conservative principles.
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TROLL ALERT!!! TROLL ALERT!! TROLL ALERT!!!
Cruz? i like him and would vote for him but didn’t he vote for the Corker Amendment which guaranteed the Iran fiasco deal passes?
Just askin’
Why don't you take that up with the owner of this site, "FRiend"?
Kim Davis, IS following the law of KY, since the SCOTUS struck down KY law as stands, now meaning KY has NO marriage law.
Educate your self, it's a wonderful thing.
Go support homos somewhere else, please.....if you get MY drift.
because he has posted that crap a hundred times already and he’s going to keep doing it.. that’s called spamming the site..
So Las vegas Ron everyone is a troll that does not support the Donald. Come now really a troll! maybe it is time some of the braindead ninnies whom suck off the teat of the Donald get a clue - Donald is no different than Barack Hussein Obama. Everyhing is being said to gain the acceptance - lets be realistic will Mexico build the wall along the border because the Donald says it is so? Will Ford, Emerson, Nabisco, Hershey, just o name a few american businesses that have moved manufacturing to Mexico, be cause Donald says move it back?
Realistically the American consumer wants to purchase everything that is inexpensive - tell me will the UAW give in to lower wages so the common person can purchase a new car that is American made at a reasonable price. For example the Ford Fiesta sold in America built with parts from all over the world, germany, Spain, Brazil, China and so forth.
In order to change what Donald wants is to become and isolationist country with protectionists goals - you ever hear of the Grea depression and the American manufacturer isolationistic ideology that brought America into a depression. Do you the policies of the New Deal by FDR caused the depression to last longer than it would have.
No Las Vegas ron someone is not a troll if they stand up for what they believe. Funny you support the Donald for what he portrays to believe in but if anyone else differs from the Donald the crowned jerk of all jerks you go after them. Las vegas Ron how is Las Vegas doing , the so called Gambling capital. How much has the Donald invested in Las vegas recently? Since the Donald is known for motels and casinos, how is that industry in Las vegas. care to let some people know.
I support that Trump is ripping the POS elitist in DC a new one, you?
You got a problem with that, so sad, too bad.
I support Cruz, but I support what Trump is doing....evidently Cruz does too.
If you have been paying attention, they're likely tag teaming.
Any thing else?
Cruz and Huckabee are the only two candidates that have shown strong support for her.
Ditto what you wrote.
How long have you been working for Rand?
Didn’t read hardly beyond your headline. Just clicked in for the comments.
Opinions are great, they lend to healthy debate.
Missions on the other hand are highly suspect.
This particular poster is on a mission.
See 25 please, then go fix the damage you did to your leg kicking that chair.
I never saw the posting before, maybe because i have a life outside of FR. Gee your potty mouth is going full scale again. Wonder if the filth scrubbers can be installed that deal with ignoramuss that resort to filth! No I am not a woman. Yes I am a former marine who fought for the likes of you to spout your mouth off and demean others whom have the God given right to express themselves. The gentleman did not say anything that any reasonable conservative already questions about the Donald
Just wait until you see its home page, a real hoot ;)
Big picture, big picture. Not a few whiny complaints.
I am unable to use my legs because i am paralyzed from the waist down. I served this country proudly and when the Lebanon Barracks was bombed I was inside with many other marines that did not make it out. So spare me the rhetoric you spinelss blowhard!
BUMP
Yet you don't mention that on your home page....why?
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