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Rescuing Miss Kim Davis
My own workup | 09/05/2015 | DoughtyOne

Posted on 09/05/2015 1:24:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne

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To: DoughtyOne
Good post.

Trump said clearly she shouldn't have been jailed, yet we have people here saying that he wants her in jail... WTF.

I heard one say that he doesn't understand the constitution, when the constitution is clear on the SC role.

All of us HATE the ruling, but Trump is just pointing out the obvious.

I'll tell everyone here one simple truth. If Trump gets harpooned, there is no doubt single digit candidates under him will succumb to Bush's millions in short order...which is what some of the trolls here want.

This place is filthy with paid Bushoids who wont' stand up and be counted.

21 posted on 09/05/2015 1:59:39 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Vision Thing

Ultimately Trump will disappoint in the vein of Jesse Ventura now known as a hate filled atheist and Ahnold who delivered a lot less than his rhetoric suggested as California governor.

But for now Trump’s boots are firmly crushing the gonads of evil (the Republican Establishment) and hopefully someone else (Ted Cruz?) will rise to the top but not the GOPe’s anointed one, Jeb.


22 posted on 09/05/2015 2:00:12 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: nickcarraway

Nick, what is your explanation for Cruz going AWOL in the Senate on this issue?

You can sit there and try to redirect it to Trump all night if you like, but Cruz actually serves in a body that can do something about the SCOTUS ruling.

Trump doesn’t.


23 posted on 09/05/2015 2:00:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Fai Mao

Glad to see you enjoy seeing Christians being jailed for their views. Why don’t you just fire up those gas chambers for them already.


24 posted on 09/05/2015 2:00:41 AM PDT by Vision Thing ("Community Organizer" is a shorter way of saying "Commie Unity Organizer".)
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To: AAABEST

Thanks AAABest. I hear ya.


25 posted on 09/05/2015 2:01:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Well you better have your fire proof pants on.

This issue is becoming a firestorm and it should. Christians have a long history of being persecuted. Christians watched what happen to the Jews in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s. Christians are watching what is happening to other Christians in the Middle East and Africa. If you think Christians are going to meekly allow themselves to be persecuted here by Marxist and homosexuals you are badly mistaken. And your candidate is very much on the wrong side of this issue.

If Trump continues to side with a rouge court enabling persecution of Christians he is toast.

26 posted on 09/05/2015 2:03:49 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb

He can’t keep siding with the Rogue Court. He hasn’t sided with it yet. He is recognizing the law of the land. If you can’t grasp that, this issue is over your head.

He said the woman should not have been arrested.
This reveals he doesn’t agree with the court.

He is not siding with the court.

And by the way, I’ve mentioned this to you about five times this morning, and you still either can’t grasp it, or you’re deteriming to remain a disrupter on the forum.


27 posted on 09/05/2015 2:07:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I don’t think you’ve been following. I have said over and over said Cruz looked like a conservative, but has started to look more like a RINO in the last few months. And a month or two before June 17th I slammed Cruz for saying gay marriage was a “state’s rights” issue and said that was a failed argument.


28 posted on 09/05/2015 2:08:04 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: AAABEST
What are you talking about? Trump supports her being jailed here is the quote.

""I hate to see her being put in jail. I understand what they’re doing. It would be certainly nice if she didn’t do it, but other people in her office do it. But from what I understand, she won’t allow other people in her office to do it"

Notice the "I understand what they're doing." with out condemning it. That means support.

29 posted on 09/05/2015 2:09:18 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Nextrush

Yup, it’s been great fun watching Trump take on all the uniparty/liberal sacred cows with complete fearlessness and disregard for his own reputation, business interests, and safety.

But now that Christians are getting jailed for their stand against homosexuality, he becomes a dainty little wallflower, unwilling to use his leading-man status and madman tactics to badger the likes of Bunning and the Supreme Court.


30 posted on 09/05/2015 2:10:08 AM PDT by Vision Thing ("Community Organizer" is a shorter way of saying "Commie Unity Organizer".)
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To: DoughtyOne
Nick, what is your explanation for Cruz going AWOL in the Senate on this issue?

My explanation is that Cruz is a Senator and they all abandon conservatism eventually. That's why despite some positive things, I have never endorsed him and am still undecided.

Having said that, at least Cruz has a track record of supporting conservatism. Trump has zero. Also, Cruz never used a platform to promote gay marriage among the public. The reason Congress won't do anything is feelings of the public. And Trump used his money and power to promote gay marriage. So, as much as I criticize Cruz, Trump is way worse.

31 posted on 09/05/2015 2:11:38 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Okay Nick. Sometimes it’s hard to keep everyone’s preferences in mind. A lot of folks have settled on Cruz and you being against Trump, I figured it was a safe bet.


32 posted on 09/05/2015 2:12:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: AAABEST
Do you have a shred of proof that Trump is against gay marriage? Because he has a history of activism in favor of it: The Unlikely Turning Point in the Same Sex Marriage Battle (Trump's Pro-Gay Pageant)
33 posted on 09/05/2015 2:12:55 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: DoughtyOne
Sadly, I don't have one yet. Cruz, Jindal, and Carson seem good. Can't get a read on Walker. But Cruz has made me nervous for about 6 months.

By the way, I don't trust Cruz completely on immigration, nor any Republican, but I trust him more than Trump. Cruz had an interview with Jorge Ramos, and got him to basically admit the hypocrisy of his position on immigration, but it was drowned out by Trump talk.

34 posted on 09/05/2015 2:15:41 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

yeah, Trump is way worse, but voting to make it next to impossible to deny Iran Nuclear weapons was... well... okay right?

Throw all the mud you want at Trump. It’s not going to work Nick.

Without Trump, we wind up with nothing. We get another warm bucket of horse sweat that I won’t hold my nose and vote for.


35 posted on 09/05/2015 2:17:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Why would Congress need to pass a new law?

Kentucky already did that. And Kim Davis is obeying that law.


36 posted on 09/05/2015 2:17:53 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: nickcarraway

You tell me you can’t trust Cruz, and then tell me you can a lot more than Trump.

What wall has Cruz talked about building?

Trump has proposed a 60’ tall wall from the Pacific to the Caribbean.


37 posted on 09/05/2015 2:19:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: jpsb

So, supporting the rule of law is now a bad thing? Homo marriage is the law now, regardless of whether you or me like it or not. The judge in this case did what he pretty much had to do. The people to condemn on this are the SCOTUS and Congress as they are the only groups that can actually change this.


38 posted on 09/05/2015 2:20:15 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: DoughtyOne
We used to be a nation governed by consent of "We The People" Gee I wonder where that idea ever went too? Did the USSC rule that Unconstitutional as well? /sarcasm

Not even one USSC Justice who decreed that homosexuals be allowed to marry and the states FORCED to abide was elected by we the people. Not a one of them. They do not have that authority. Lawyers can yack all they want but the USSC does not have Legislative powers.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Why wait on politicians? Especially why wait on judges who abuse their Constitutionally Limited authority? It's OUR nation. Just because they meaning in this case the USSC tries to pass a law which BTW the USSC CAN NOT DO in a case like this does not mean we are morally bound to it. Nor should we be bound legally to it.

If people start supporting officials who are rightfully disobeying this abomination upon our nation maybe we might get our nation back as well as GOD's Blessing we once had.

Our leaders must fear our wrath preferably at the ballot box but Jefferson penned another means as well. It will likely take an outright revolt a mass refusal to bring a halt to it. Not a pretty please your honor in the so called court rooms. Not a wait till the next dozen elections either.

Justice and The Constitution as well as The Whole Truth were tossed out of the court rooms decades ago.

39 posted on 09/05/2015 2:23:05 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: jpsb

I think you are wrong. Christians here have meekly put up with abortion for 40+ years, I suspect they will not do much of anything about this either.


40 posted on 09/05/2015 2:23:44 AM PDT by jospehm20
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