Rescuing Miss Kim Davis

My own workup | 09/05/2015 | DoughtyOne

[jpsb]

He is siding with the court if he is not condemning the court.

This a simple concept. In the military (back in the day) we learned "silence is consent". Trump says it (same-sex marriage) is a done deal, time to move on. So Trump is cool with same-sex marriage. If Trump were not cool with same-sex marriage he would be condemning loudly and often. If he was not cool with Kim Davis imprisoned for her Christian beliefs he would be condemning that loudly and often as are Huckabee, Cruz, Paul, Jindal and Santorum. See the difference?

[nickcarraway]

Trump has proposed a 60’ tall wall from the Pacific to the Caribbean.

And how can you trust him? You can't. That wall will never happen. He even made it was clear that he wasn't on the level by saying he was going to make Mexico pay for it. His Archie Bunker moment.

Besides that all shows he's not a conservative and doesn't know the reality of immigration::
You don't close the barn door after the cow is gone. There are already 60 million illegals here. The number coming in the future is far lower. So the ones here are a bigger problem. The ones he's said many time he will let stay.

The wall won't stop illegals - it's basic conservative economics. If the U.S. system incentivizes illegals to come here, they will get here. So the root problem will still exist wall or no wall. And since Trump doesn't even understand the root problem, he couldn't even deal with it, if he wanted to.

[nickcarraway]

You tell me you can’t trust Cruz, and then tell me you can a lot more than Trump.

Yes, Cruz is a 65-75. Trump is a 10 tops.

[jpsb]

"So, supporting the rule of law is now a bad thing?"

Yes, when the laws are unjust and immoral supporting the rule of law is a bad thing. See 1930s Germany for a crystal clear example.

[MD Expat in PA]

Trump has proposed a 60’ tall wall from the Pacific to the Caribbean.

Ummmm. Wouldn’t that be from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico?

Maybe President Dwayne Trump Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho will build that 60’ wall right through the Gulf of Mexico (and He will BTW rename it - The Gulf Of TRUMP! and He will make Mexico pay for the cost of updating all the maps because… TRUMP!) and He will extend that 60’ wall all the way to and well past the Florida Keys. And He will replace all the water in the Gulf of Trump and Caribbean with Brawdo because it is FABULOUS and it’s got what plants crave.

[DoughtyOne]

He is siding with the court if he is not condemning the court.

He sides with the court when he sides with the court.  He diesn't side with the court by not addressing the court's actions.

Thsi is the old, if you don't vote for (R), you're in effect voting for (D).  No, because if you don't vote for (D) you've voted for (R).  Of course neither are true.  And neither is this support the court argument.

This a simple concept. In the military (back in the day) we learned "silence is consent".

Once again, because you refused to admit this to yourself the other times...

If I admit it costs $37.50 for a smog check, does that mean I think it should be $37.50?  No.  And it doesn't mean that I think there should even be a smot check.

Trump acknowledges what the law is at the current time.  He acknowledges the woman has been arrested.  He didn't endorse either.  He said she shouldn't have been arrested.

At no time did he say he agreed with the SCOTUS decision.

By the way, I didn't speak out against Blacks who wear hats or cars that are convertables here.  That doesn't mean I support Blackes wearing hats or cars that are convertables.

Trump says it (same-sex marriage) is a done deal, time to move on.

He said the current law states she has to issue marriage certificates to same sex couples.  He did not say he agree with it.  He did not say the Court was right to set this up.

So Trump is cool with same-sex marriage.

No, actually he didn't say that he was, or even imply that he was..

If Trump were not cool with same-sex marriage he would be condemning loudly and often.

I'm against a lot of things I don't condemn loudly and often.

If he was not cool with Kim Davis imprisoned for her Christian beliefs he would be condemning that loudly and often as are Huckabee, Cruz, Paul, Jindal and Santorum. See the difference?

No.  He said he did not think she should be in jail.

You jump to a lot of conclusions.

[jospehm20]

See USA since 1973 for one closer to home. What have you done about it?

[DoughtyOne]

I don’t disagree with most of your premises, but I cannot agree to some sort of outside the bounds of the law solution to unlawful acts by the SCOTUS.

A Constitutional way has to be found to counter the skulduggery.

I don’t agree with the court here. I do understand why things are like they are though.

[AAABEST]

Do you have a shred of proof that Trump is against gay marriage?

Even though I asked you not to ping me until you become sane again, it's a good question.

No I don't have any proof he's against gay marriage. Maybe he's actually for it. Let's say, for this argument he IS for it.

What I do know FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY is if Trump doesn't get the nomination, Bush will. Bet your ass on that. Then, not only will we be stuck with gay marriage, but also amnesty, common core, environmental insanity, corporate cronyism, GOPe/Dem rule, Denali etc.

Bush will crush Cruz, Walker and Carson like grapes once Trump is out of the way.

THINK.

[DoughtyOne]

Nick, it’s my take you pretty much just scoffed at anything you didn’t want to hear there.

It’s pointless to address point by point of you dismissing what Trump is campaigning on.

[DoughtyOne]

Nick, Trump is not hawking 90% liberal things right now.

He is hawking about 95% Conservative things.

[nickcarraway]

Maybe he can just extend the Rio Grande into a giant moat and make Mexico and island?

[nickcarraway]

By the way, Gavin Newsom started this all by illegally giving out gay marriage license. He got rewarded for breaking the law. But conservatives should be punished! Like Trump says, we need two different standards.

[DoughtyOne]

Yes it would.

If Trump says he can build a wall, I will accept that he can.

He has a pretty good construction record.

[Vision Thing]

Christians here have meekly put up with abortion for 40+ years, I suspect they will not do much of anything about this either.

For Christians, this situation with homo marriage differs from abortion.

The pro-death crowd doesn't target Christians, whereas the pro-homo crowd does.

So it won't be a matter of "not doing much of anything" because Christians are facing an existential threat from the homos. Christians will react.

[nickcarraway]

Trump doesn't get the nomination, Bush will.

And Trump will endorse him! By the way, Bush is bad, but Trump is farther to the left. So I don't get why anyone in the Trump/Bush axis is something to be happy about.

[AAABEST]

A Constitutional way has to be found to counter the skulduggery.

Exactly. I HATE the gay agenda, but for now, we're stuck with homo marriage. No amount of protesting, foot stomping or flailing will change that.

The only way around it seems to be a constitutional amendment. For now at least, the opt-out avenue is what we have to deal with, until homo marriage destroys itself or becomes marginalized despite the law.

[DoughtyOne]

I’ll settle for the 60’ wall.

[DoughtyOne]

Yeah...

[Vision Thing]

You have quite the imagination. I like it.