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Rescuing Miss Kim Davis
My own workup | 09/05/2015 | DoughtyOne

Posted on 09/05/2015 1:24:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne

On June the 16th the SCOTUS handed down a decision on same sex marriage. The majority opinion agreed that same sex marriages must be recognized by the states. The states would have to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples, and they would have to recognize same sex marriages performed in other states. LINK

None of us agreed with that ruling, but it was a much anticipated ruling. Conservatives knew this was coming for months. The ruling, one that could be a catastrophe for traditional marriage, was a potential nuclear bomb to the Biblical and even historic definition of marriage for most of recorded civilization.

This being the case, traditional marriage supporters had plenty of time to prepare. Special task forces could have been established. Methods of countering a potential SCOTUS bombshell could have been developed. None were.

Today we're very upset that a young woman was arrested for defying a court order and refusing to issue a marriage license to a same sex couple. It was against her religious beliefs, and for someone, we knew it would be. Tonight she remains in jail.

All day long today, Republican candidates have been making statements about this situation. Some of them have pledged support to this woman. Some are upset that others didn't express what they deem to be enough support. Lets be clear about something here.

That ruling came down on June the 16th. Before the August 4 & 6th recess, there were 28 days of business.

If our members of the House or Senate had been concerned over the sanctity of marriage, they could have introduced legislation within hours of the SCOTUS ruling. They didn't.

Yesterday the first court clerk was arrested for refusing to issue same sex marriage certificates. Since that moment some of our Republican candidates have been expressing a massive amount of support for the clerk, and they should have.

Some of these candidates who expressed the most support for the clerk, were quick to take other candidates to task for not showing enough support. This is where it gets rather interesting.

Some of the candidates who have shown the most support, are now taking other candidates to task for not showing enough. Strangely enough, three of those candidates served in the Senate and House. Did they express their strong support of traditional marriage there?

Was any single piece of legislation written and processed to address SCOTUS skulduggery? Were people like this clerk protected? Did Obama have to use his veto pen?

NO! NO he did not.

One whole month came and went and no legislative action was taken at all to rectify this situation.

We have supposed Constitutional scholars. WE have people who have argued before the SCOTUS, and know better than anyone else how this system works. They did nothing!

Now they are on the campaign trail, and it's expedient to rally to the defense of someone who could have been protected. She wasn't.

Today one non-politician has come under the gun for recognizing what the law on the books today is. He said he wished the clerk hadn't been arrested, but the law says she has to issue the licenses to same sex couples.

Folks, he's right!

Note this isn't what some folks have determined it to be.

This politician didn't endorse the SCOTUS actions.
He didn't approve of them.
He didn't say they did the right thing with their ruling.

What this politician said was that he was sorry this woman was arrested, but she has to follow the law. Yes folks, she does. We are a nation of laws.

What can this candidate do for the clerk now? He can voice support. He could come down an protest with others. Neither of those things can put an end to what is going on.

This evening there is a lot of gnashing of teeth. Guys are just so upset that this clerk has been arrested.

Where was that concern on June 17th to August 4th? LINK

Why is it that private citizen is being blamed here? Why didn't our Congress-critters do their job?

Is it any wonder we have a non politician kicking the politician's butts this year?

Cruz, Paul, Santorum... what action did you take to prevent this? Here you are acting as if you really care, but when you had plenty of time to know this was coming, and plenty of time to introduce legislation, you didn't.

Don't you dare try to blame this on Trump. Now nothing can be done. Where were you when something could have been done?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics; Religion
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1 posted on 09/05/2015 1:24:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

I became less enthusiastic about Trump after his less than enthusiastic support for Kim Davis.


2 posted on 09/05/2015 1:32:33 AM PDT by Vision Thing ("Community Organizer" is a shorter way of saying "Commie Unity Organizer".)
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To: Vision Thing

And I’m sure you withdrew support from Cruz for not taking action in the Senate to protect Kim Davis when he should have.

Yes, I can see the real concern here.


3 posted on 09/05/2015 1:34:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

That one non-politician had a huge impact on gay marriage being legalized through his pageant.


4 posted on 09/05/2015 1:34:13 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Nope, he didn’t. But Nick, your psychedelic rantings here assure me you probable did see it for real.


5 posted on 09/05/2015 1:35:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Trump just dissapoints me when he can fight like a madman against so many uniparty idols but when it comes to the Kim Davis situation, he acts just like another run-of-the-mill, play-it-safe, milquetoast politician.


6 posted on 09/05/2015 1:38:35 AM PDT by Vision Thing ("Community Organizer" is a shorter way of saying "Commie Unity Organizer".)
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To: Vision Thing

Look, Cruz is a U. S. Senator. Congress can pass legislation alleviate this problem.

Paul and Santorum could have introduced legislation also.

Trump can’t.

These after the fact feel good moments are nothing but exercises in misdirection.

This is not the time to fix it. The day to fix it was June 17th.


7 posted on 09/05/2015 1:41:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Oh yeah, read it and weep: The Unlikely Turning Point in the Same Sex Marriage Battle (Trump's Pro-Gay Pageant)

How are yu going to excuse this?

8 posted on 09/05/2015 1:42:53 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Why should I have to explain it.

Cruz was so thrilled with the SCOTUS ruling on same sex marriage he didn’t lift a finger to rectify the situation.

Same goes for Paul and Santorum.

Does Trump serve in the U. S. Senate?

Cruz didn’t give a rip.


9 posted on 09/05/2015 1:46:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Trump didn’t have to send a gay activist to give a gay activist to give a Christian girl a set up “gotcha question, did he? When it comes to conservatives and Christians Trump loves “gotcha questions.”


10 posted on 09/05/2015 1:46:22 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

It’s your boy serving in the U. S. Senate Nick.

He was so happy about the SCOTUS ruling, he didn’t lift a finger to fix things.

Must feel great knowing you can’t blame Trump for not taking action in the U. S. Senate.

Atta boy Cruz. Three cheers for the SCOTUS Ted...


11 posted on 09/05/2015 1:48:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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How come Trump supporters said they loved how Trump, “STOOD UP,” to the media, and they didn’t care how much criticism it got. Now they are saying conservatives and Christians should role over and play dead for liberal mainstream, and they are saying it’s okay that Trump plays Mr. P.C. to the media.


12 posted on 09/05/2015 1:48:57 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: DoughtyOne; Vision Thing

Yes, but you and I know that the Senate or House will NEVER pass any conservative legislation. So what you are suggesting is just to give up.


13 posted on 09/05/2015 1:50:09 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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It’s your boy serving in the U. S. Senate Nick.

Who is my boy in the Senate? You better go back and read up, because I strongly attacked Cruz on the gay marriage and got a lot of flack for it. But you know for a fact that the Senate couldn't get more that 5 votes tops for any such legislation and less that 20% of the House. But, wait, the same is true for any anti-amnesty or wall-building legislation. So Trump would have to do the same thing as Kim Davis if he is going to follow through on his alleged immigration plan. You can't have it both ways.

14 posted on 09/05/2015 1:53:27 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Vision Thing

Kim Davis is a democrat. She ran on their platform

Therefore she has no excuse for being offended.

It is as simple as that

If you are elected to an office representing the party of Homo-marriage, abortion and immorality you have no right to make a moral stand

Let her rot in jail as all democrats should


15 posted on 09/05/2015 1:53:35 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: nickcarraway

Nick, we can go down and protest. We can’t change the law.

We can support Davis, but it’s going to take another case before the Supreme Court before this can be changed.

Congress could do something, but our guys have made it clear we can’t count on them.

They could have taken action, and they couldn’t be bothered.


16 posted on 09/05/2015 1:54:53 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne
But Nick, your psychedelic rantings here assure me you probable did see it for real.

You made assertions about me, did you read post #8. Trump is a liberal cultural activist. He will shiv Christian in the back when he gets a chance.

17 posted on 09/05/2015 1:55:15 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

What do you mean we can’t pass Conservative legislation?

We have 54 Republican Senators.

We have the largest majority in the House we’ve had in 80 years.


18 posted on 09/05/2015 1:56:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Basically you are saying, "accept you role as a dhimmi."

Secondly, you are also saying accept amnesty. Because very soon Congress or the courts are going to force that on us.

19 posted on 09/05/2015 1:56:57 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Okay, then you tell me what Cruz did from June 17th to August 4th. If that wasn’t a shiv to the back of Conservatism, him taking a complete pass to submit legislation to rescue traditional marriage, what would be?


20 posted on 09/05/2015 1:58:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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