Posted on 07/09/2015 9:51:39 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
Donald Trump sat down with Obama's NBC News' Katy Tur and was asked why people should believe his numbers on illegal immigration when he led the birther movement and sent investigators out to Hawaii to investigate whether Obama was not born here. Watch Tur press Trump over the issue pleading that Obama released his birth certificate.
Trump fired back:
"According to you it's not true. If you believe that, that's fine. ... A lot of people don't agree with you on that..."
(Excerpt) Read more at birtherreport.com ...
Ha! Looks like the *story* has been changed/scrubbed clean, since that screen grab (if it’s a legit screen grab)...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95550177
No I don’t believe it at all, but two forms 15 years different certainly can be different for sure. I still don’t believe that Barack was born in Hawaii.
I know people who still think Bush went AWOL.
“Not helpful, the mother was a USA citizen so he was also one by birth.
Trump maybe wants a way to not get competitive with the race maybe have gotten scared to death he could win?”
Actually, no, Stanley the “mother”, could not legally transmit citizenship to Obama if he was born outside the US, because she had been absent too long from the US for a person her age, to be eligible to do that. Settled law.
I think there is a plausible chance he was born in Canada. I do not think there is a plausible chance he was born in Kenya.
The larger issue is this; Does someone with only 14th amendment citizenship meet the requirements of being a "natural" citizen? My answer is "No." No they do not.
Arpaio a few days ago, said "he has got Trump's back" on this. Arpaio has a major suspect and he wants this guy before he comes forward.
“Arpaio has a major suspect and he wants this guy before he comes forward. “
Can you elaborate on that?
I believe Barry was stonewalling on all personal records, but not because his birth was an issue. It was his subsequent portrayal of himself as an “international,” most likely as an Indonesian of combined Caucasian and Kenyan descent. (Cool!) I suspect that there is evidence, if it still exists, that Barry obtained financial assistance as an international student. That would be very plausible. If I were him I would have tried it myself.
Obama's only claim to citizenship is the 14th amendment. I will point out they had "natural citizens" prior to the existence of the 14th amendment, and so therefore the 14th amendment is unnecessary to it, and therefore does not create "natural citizens."
He is not a natural citizen even if he was born in the US, and there is some circumstantial evidence to indicate he might have been born in Canada.
That would mean he is not a citizen at all.
As much as I hate to let this issue go, I have to agree with you. Unless he's got some "Universe Shattering Evidence" I say leave this alone and focus on issues the American people care about.
If you are adopted, as quite a lot of circumstantial evidence indicates he was, your original is sealed by a court, and cannot be unsealed without lots of lawyers to sign waivers.
I think what we have been seeing is a replacement birth certificated created by Hawaii to replace his original which is under seal.
OK, Arpaio early this year in a few interviews, says he knows who made the fake Obama BC. So that tells me he is building a case against this major suspect and needs key pieces of evidence that ties him to the Obama White House forgery. He wants this guy.
“says he knows who made the fake Obama BC.”
We already know who. He admitted it. If forget the name but search for it. It is already out there.
Bill and Hillary were the first birthers during the Democratic primary.
Corsi’s book lays out the credible case against the fake certificate (and social security # and selective service cards). Unfortunately the truth doesn’t matter. Most republicans and talk shows, and the courts have decided that they won’t touch the issue.
And what is absolutely galling is the fact that the entire legal system and all 50 state election officials seem to think the burden of proof is on anyone but the candidate.
No, the burden of proof should only be on the candidate, and if he cannot adequately meet that burden of proof, he should never have been permitted on the ballot.
5.56mm
I am the same age as you. I couldn’t put my hand on my original birth certificate if you had a gun to my head. Not defending our fearless leader. But for some of us it just never get passed down. I have a long form that I got before I got married. It’s pristine 30 years later.
That oughta do it. That is donnie’s equivalent of the dukakis tank ride.
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