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Even in 2015, the New York Times is still pretending that desalination does not exist
wordpress ^ | April 6, 2015 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 04/06/2015 3:51:29 AM PDT by grundle

Even in 2015, the New York Times is still pretending that desalination does not exist


The New York Times just published this article on California’s water shortage:

California Drought Tests History of Endless Growth

A punishing drought is forcing a reconsideration of whether the aspiration of untrammeled growth that has for so long been the state’s engine has run against the limits of nature.

April 4, 2015

LOS ANGELES — For more than a century, California has been the state where people flocked for a better life — 164,000 square miles of mountains, farmland and coastline, shimmering with ambition and dreams, money and beauty. It was the cutting-edge symbol of possibility: Hollywood, Silicon Valley, aerospace, agriculture and vineyards.

But now a punishing drought — and the unprecedented measures the state announced last week to compel people to reduce water consumption — is forcing a reconsideration of whether the aspiration of untrammeled growth that has for so long been this state’s driving engine has run against the limits of nature.

The 25 percent cut in water consumption ordered by Gov. Jerry Brown raises fundamental questions about what life in California will be like in the years ahead…

… the scarcity of water could result in a decline in housing construction, at a time when there has been a burst of desperately needed residential development in cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco.

The article contains exactly zero mention of desalination as a solution to these problems.

Apparently, the New York Times would rather complain about California’s water shortage, than propose a way to actually solve the problem.

The same New York Times article also states:

… even California’s biggest advocates are wondering if the severity of this drought, now in its fourth year, is going to force a change in the way the state does business.

Can Los Angeles continue to dominate as the country’s capital of entertainment and glamour, and Silicon Valley as the center of high tech, if people are forbidden to take a shower for more than five minutes and water bills become prohibitively expensive? Will tourists worry about coming? Will businesses continue their expansion in places like San Francisco and Venice?

The New York Times’s claim about “even California’s biggest advocates” is false. In the real world, California’s “biggest advocates” are in favor of desalination. The fact that the New York Times says otherwise proves that its writers are living in a fantasyland.

Meanwhile, in the real world, this other article, which is from McClatchy, says that desalination has allowed Israel to stop worrying about water shortages:

Israel no longer worried about its water supply, thanks to desalination plants

March 20, 2014

HADERA, Israel — Israel has gone through one of the driest winters in its history, but despite the lean rainy season, the government has suspended a longstanding campaign to conserve water.

Israel has in recent years achieved a quiet water revolution through desalination.

Some 80 percent of domestic water use in Israeli cities comes from desalinated water…

“There’s no water problem because of the desalination,” said Hila Gil, director of the desalination division in the Israel Water Authority. “The problem is no longer on the agenda.”

Israel’s experience might also offer some important lessons, or at least contrast, for states like California.

Each of Israel’s plants cost between $300 million and $450 million to build. The plants are privately owned and operated, under a contract with the government, which buys the water from the plants. The budget for water purchases comes from water charges to consumers. The plants are not subsidized.

Desalinated water at the Soreq plant is produced at the price of 52 cents a cubic meter

Wow! Those numbers are quite impressive: 80% of Israel’s domestic water comes from desalination, it costs only 52 cents per cubic meter, and it doesn’t even require any government subsidies.

California has a population density of 246 people per square mile. Israel, by comparison, has a population density of 1,004 people per square mile.

In other words, Israel’s population density is more than four times that of California’s.

And yet, while Israel has enough water for its people, the New York Times falsely claims that California has reached its limits of growth, and could not supply water for any additional people.

Israel has chosen desalination over water shortages.

California, by comparison, has chosen water shortages over desalination.

And the New York Times has chosen to ignore reality.



TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: california; desalination; desalinationplants; drought; governormoonbeam; israel; jerrybrown; mediabias; moonbeam; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; water
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1 posted on 04/06/2015 3:51:29 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Someone should tell them that desalination would slow the rising sea levels or something.


2 posted on 04/06/2015 3:56:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: grundle

Desalination requires energy. LEFTISTS HATE ENERGY. Therfore, it’s not an option.


3 posted on 04/06/2015 4:01:10 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: grundle

Here’s the problem; what happens to those private businesses in years when there is no drought? If there’s plenty of cheaper water, they will go bankrupt. Or the government will have to subsidize them. In someplace that never has plentiful water they can count on a steady demand, but most years in CA are not drought years, unlike the middle east which is always dry.


4 posted on 04/06/2015 4:02:17 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: SampleMan

Can someone tell me why they haven’t built underground pipes across the U.S. to carry water from the states that are experiencing flooding/ high water levels to the states that are in a drought? I can see no environmental hazards that the environmentalists would be concerned about?


5 posted on 04/06/2015 4:05:26 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: Hugin
There are much better places to grow food.


6 posted on 04/06/2015 4:08:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Hugin

The private plants will simply adjust to market conditions then, if there is a surplus of water.
Sheesh


7 posted on 04/06/2015 4:11:01 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GO WISCONSIN BADGERS GO!)
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To: lilypad
Can someone tell me why they haven’t built underground pipes across the U.S. to carry water from the states that are experiencing flooding/ high water levels to the states that are in a drought? I can see no environmental hazards that the environmentalists would be concerned about?

Flooding is generally a very localized and short term problem. Drought is a long term widespread problem.
8 posted on 04/06/2015 4:13:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Hugin

SoCal LA are never has water, they bring it from way east rivers and mountain lakes by aquaducts. DeSal would probably not be much more expensive.


9 posted on 04/06/2015 4:15:53 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: grundle

Israel has gone through one of the driest winters in its history, but despite the lean rainy season, the government has suspended a longstanding campaign to conserve water..
The problem the Times has with desalination Is explained in the last 10 words of that paragraph


10 posted on 04/06/2015 4:16:31 AM PDT by snappahead (if your gonna be dumb, you better be tough.)
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To: grundle

It doesn’t occur to the left one way to reduce water consumption is to eliminate illegal immigration and return illegals to their home countries. Halting illegal immigration and returning sending the illegals home would also reduce energy consumption.

Perhaps the person who currently holds the office of POTUS could start to set an example by ending his frequent flights to the west coast where he holds a fundraiser and then spends a weekend playing golf at exclusive desert courses, accessible only to the upper 2% he hates so much. These course require millions of gallons of water to sustain and Air Force One consumes thousands of gallons of fossil fuel. Somehow the editors at the NY Times never seem to point out the hypocrisy.


11 posted on 04/06/2015 4:20:30 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: grundle

“New York Times is still pretending”

Not much has changed in the last 50+ years.


12 posted on 04/06/2015 4:25:41 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: grundle
Just because the Left believes everything the New York Times says doesn't mean the rest of have to.
13 posted on 04/06/2015 4:26:28 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Megascale Desalination
The world’s largest and cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant is up and running in Israel.

http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/534996/megascale-desalination/


14 posted on 04/06/2015 4:28:28 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: snappahead
This is why we need new forms of nuclear power such as the molten-salt reactor, which is extremely safe to run (even in earthquake-prone areas) and uses thorium-232 as its primary nuclear fuel in a form that is effectively meltdown-proof. And the reactor design can be scaled up and down for local needs instead of needing one big reactor.

With large desalinization plants powered by MSR's up and down the California coastline, we could produce enough potable water to essentially cut the need for water from dams and canals by 50% or more. And that means the current water distribution infrastructure can be better used for agricultural uses.

15 posted on 04/06/2015 4:28:49 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: grundle

maybe people in CA could get enough water if the millions of illegals were sent back to their home/


16 posted on 04/06/2015 4:31:23 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: grundle

The UAE and desalinization: http://www.waterworld.com/articles/2013/04/dubai-opens-uaes-largest-desalination-plant.html

Abu Dabi: http://r.duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.khaleejtimes.com%2Fkt-article-display-1.asp%3Fxfile%3Ddata%2Fnationgeneral%2F2014%2FMay%2Fnationgeneral_May48.xml%26section%3Dnationgeneral

Dubai: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-09-23/desalination-plants-supply-98-8-of-dubai-s-water-forum-is-told

In other words, entire ME countries get desalinized water.


17 posted on 04/06/2015 4:33:11 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: manc

Moonbeam’s dad built plenty of dams. None have been built since, although the population has at least doubled.


18 posted on 04/06/2015 4:34:15 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: grundle
Desalination would remove another excuse from the warmist's arsenal.

Drought is exploitable.

19 posted on 04/06/2015 4:38:52 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You’re talking about a huge capital outlay and operating costs, for an inconsistent return. That’s not so simple to adjust for. I’m not saying desal doesn’t have a place, but it isn’t as simple as some people think. Things rarely are.


20 posted on 04/06/2015 4:40:19 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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