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Is self defense legitimate?
1 posted on 11/13/2014 12:03:45 AM PST by marktwain
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To: dynachrome

California Poll on the legitimacy of concealed carry for self defense.


2 posted on 11/13/2014 12:07:58 AM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain
I would like to meet those voting no, punch them in the nose, then ask the question again.
Not really, but saying that made me feeeeel better.
4 posted on 11/13/2014 12:18:21 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: marktwain

Is life legitimate?


5 posted on 11/13/2014 1:11:36 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain

Do you think self-defense is good enough cause to be issued a concealed weapons permit?

Think the Constitution already has that covered........


8 posted on 11/13/2014 2:38:32 AM PST by 48th SPS (Not Republican. Not a Democrat. I am an American)
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To: marktwain

is there another reason?


9 posted on 11/13/2014 3:04:05 AM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: marktwain; 2ndDivisionVet; 45semi; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; ...

Link to poll:

http://www.utsandiego.com/polls/2014/nov/guidelines-carrying-concealed-weapon-hp/results/

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10 posted on 11/13/2014 3:10:30 AM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: marktwain

The idea that the state ‘permits’ one to self-defend using a weapon of choice outside the home is the larger issue.


11 posted on 11/13/2014 3:11:57 AM PST by ggrrrrr23456
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Gee....why not ask Rosie O’Donnell, Barbara Streisand, and all the rest of the Hollywood and media libs what their bodyguards’ guns are for then?


12 posted on 11/13/2014 3:57:33 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: marktwain

87% (779)
NO 12% (108)
Total votes 887


13 posted on 11/13/2014 4:39:54 AM PST by Tigercap
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To: marktwain

FReeped! ;-)


14 posted on 11/13/2014 5:05:32 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: marktwain

—now 88% yes-—(5:35 pst ,13 nov)


17 posted on 11/13/2014 5:35:10 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: marktwain

The Constitution says nothing of permits and licenses for this, or any other of The Bill of Rights.

Eff the State.


18 posted on 11/13/2014 5:51:20 AM PST by onedoug
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To: marktwain

I can’t think of one other reason for carrying than self defense. What is wrong with these people?


20 posted on 11/13/2014 5:58:21 AM PST by Ditter
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[Video] DC Permit Process, Cop Says 2nd Amendment is For “When the British Are Coming”

November 13 2014

by Dan Cannon

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DC News FOX 5 DC WTTG

Let’s see, do I make a lewd joke about British porn based on the cop’s comments in this story or do I take the high road and just get right into why The District of Columbia’s new carry permit process is an absolute joke.

I guess we’ll take the high road like we always do here (but please feel free to use your imagination on the British jokes).

Investigative reporter Emily Miller, who literally wrote the book on gun rights in our nation’s capitol (see Emily Gets Her Gun), who is now a reporter with My Fox DC, attempts to obtain a permit to carry in Washington and the results are about what was expected.

What she found (and what most people already assumed) is that it’s pretty much impossible to get a permit to carry in DC. DC is currently a “may issue” district, which means you must prove you need a permit and it’s up to the authorities to decide if that need is legit.

Miller tried to argue that since she lives, works, and travels in one of the highest violent crime areas in the country (Washington DC) that she needs a permit. However, the officer she spoke with said that wasn’t good enough.

Here are some of the comments from the officer she dealt with:

“You need to meet two criteria,” Agurs explained. “First that your life is in danger, your family or your property, or you have the type of business you carry large sums of money, jewelry. Under those circumstances, you can get a carry permit in DC.”

“To prove my life is in danger?” I asked. “Obviously there is a rising crime rate and a high rate of murders and sexual assaults in D.C. — is that enough to say I want this for self-defense?”

“You have to prove you need concealed carry as opposed to just wanting one,” he replied.

Prove a need for a constitutional right? That’s what D.C.’s new law says.

The application that Agurs gave me said that living and working in a high crime city is not enough to get a carry permit. I read further down where it says that it has to be “a special danger to your life.”

What’s the difference between a regular danger — like getting raped and murdered on the street — and a special danger? You have to prove you are being targeted.

“Do I have to give evidence?” I asked.

“Yes ma’am,” said Agurs.

“I was a victim of a home invasion. And I’ve gotten a threat against me. Do I just give the police records?” I asked.

“Yes, ma’am,” he said.

Perhaps the worst comment came when a police employee argues that the Second Amendment was written during a time when “the British were coming” (#BritishPornJokes). Of course anyone who passed American History (and paid a little bit of attention) knows, the Bill of Rights was ratified well after the Revolutionary War. Well, except that guy.

http://gunssavelives.net/


22 posted on 11/13/2014 6:58:15 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: marktwain

In CA no less......

Is self-defense a good enough reason to be issued a concealed weapons permit?

Yes 87% (2573)

No 12% (351)

Total votes2924


27 posted on 11/13/2014 1:07:22 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: marktwain

Yes- 87% 3302 votes.

No- 12% 463 votes.

Live free or die.


28 posted on 11/13/2014 6:16:38 PM PST by Redcitizen (.)
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