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1 posted on 04/21/2014 11:09:02 AM PDT by Leigh Patrick Sullivan
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan
He has a point, although I think the "Four Way Political Quiz" better enunciates the concept and the position of a given individual. (Left vs. Right and authoritarian vs. libertarian)

I also contest his inclusion of fascism on the right. I doubt the leaders of the National Socialist German Worker's Party, for example, would be Republicans if they were around today.

2 posted on 04/21/2014 11:15:34 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

The model is actually spherical, with opposing poles. There is no discontinuity in the ‘lines’ as would be your parabolic model, or a linear model. That’s my personal theory however.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 11:19:09 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan
As Reagan said, it's not right or left, it's up or down. The problem with that graphic is it is inverted.

Small government and expansive free market enterprise takes a society UP, whereas big government takes a society DOWN, like a giant weight until they're "sleeping with the fishes."

5 posted on 04/21/2014 11:19:37 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan; humblegunner

Pre-empting humblegunner’s imminent arrival: any reason for excerpting your own blog besides needing clicks?


6 posted on 04/21/2014 11:21:31 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

I agree with your concept, however the labels “Conservative” and “Social Conservative” don’t belong on the path to Fascism.

The left in our country believe they do, those that are “Conservative” and “Social Conservative”, IMHO believe they push down the path of “Libertarian”, “Objectivism”, with possibly “Anarchy” at the extreme.


7 posted on 04/21/2014 11:25:13 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

I notice the limit of your participation at FreeRepublic consists of posting a link to your blog every month or so . . .

No thanks.


9 posted on 04/21/2014 11:26:52 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

Not sure I buy it, because conservatism is not a self-contained ideology, it is a reaction to progressivism’s attempts to subvert precedent and experience. Without progressivism, there would be no conservatism, and progressivism has only been around a few hundred years, so the spectrum seems to cater to modern perceptions of politics rather than a universal.

The Founders for instance, continued sodomy statutes in the USA, Washington famously dismissed Lt. Enslin in 1778 for attempting sodomy with another soldier. Was Washington really a ‘big government’ guy? Was he a ‘social conservative’? No, this wasn’t seen as government overreach any more than laws against murder or theft. That came later with the advance of progressivism and the destruction of the institutions that used to perform roles the government could not, namely the church and family.

There was no social conservatism or liberalism at this time, you were either depraved or moral, and that was it.


12 posted on 04/21/2014 11:30:28 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

The Libertarian Party has a diamond shaped quiz.


17 posted on 04/21/2014 11:54:03 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan
I was taught that the political spectrum was not a straight line too, but really a circle. The far left extremists is basically the same as the far right extremists and they are at the same position on the circle. An example; Stalin and communism is the same position as Hitler and National Socialism. Or, Harry Reid and Obammer are in the same position as Hitler and Stalin's Socialism. The Republicans and d'Rats are probably some where along the circle depending on your political viewpoint.
19 posted on 04/21/2014 11:56:48 AM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan; Jacquerie
There's no sense in comparing our own nation's law with others.

We should compare our design to its implementation by whoever is in power. That it the appropriate measurement.

Go to the video linked to this website and consider its argument for a bit.

By the way, it's my book.

26 posted on 04/21/2014 1:00:36 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Character matters for those who understand the concept)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan
The fundamental problem in your political spectrum is that the words in it aren’t English but Newspeak. This problem traces back at least to the American inversion (in the 1920s according to Safire’s New Political Dictionary) of the meaning of the word “liberal.” I’d say it even goes back further, because I’m pretty sure the term “progressive” got an inverted meaning even earlier. And, BTW, there actually aren’t any real conservatives in America; those who are labeled as such all believe in progress and liberty and therefore can NOT be considered conservative in a meaningful sense.

In The Road to Serfdom, F.A. Hayek put paid to the idea that there was any real difference between fascism and communism. They fought (during WWII) “as only half-brothers can” (quote from a nonpolitical old movie, not Hayek). People who believe in liberty can’t stand either fascists or communists - but you position “social conservatives” - who mostly just want the government to stop subverting tradition by means of government schools - right next to fascists, who - just like the communists - want government control of everything.


29 posted on 04/21/2014 1:04:08 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

I posted a similar thought almost a year ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3011704/posts

See post # 9.


30 posted on 04/21/2014 1:08:52 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

What drives me crazy is the claim that we are a ‘center-right’ country. If that’s the case, then our instrument of measure is biased to the left of where the people are.


36 posted on 04/21/2014 2:06:15 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Leigh Patrick Sullivan

For those who are curious.

61 posted on 04/22/2014 8:56:07 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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