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Martial Law: Obama Confiscates National Guard Helicopters From All 50 States
Examiner.com ^ | April 14, 2014 | Dave Gibson

Posted on 04/19/2014 1:33:21 PM PDT by lbryce

As if the Obama administration's purchase of more than 2 billion rounds of ammunition, and nearly 3,000 urban tanks, along with their unprecedented (and highly illegal) domestic spying program was not enough to convince you that the federal government is about to suspend the Constitution once and for all, the man who once vowed to run "the most transparent administration in history" has just rather inexplicably, ordered the U.S. Army to seize every Apache attack helicopter currently in use by the National Guard.

In all, the Defense Department will confiscate 192 Apaches from National Guard units around the country and give them to the active duty Army.

In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army, Defense One reports.

Last week, U.S. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee, claiming that the measure will save taxpayers $12 billion, over the next three years.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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To: Paladin2

The National Guard is intended to do a lot of our war fighting, don’t let the Vietnam war when Reserve losses approached 6,000 and Guard losses close to a 100 mislead you into thinking that was normal, in WWII for instance you would be amazed at all the National Guard divisions.


41 posted on 04/19/2014 2:52:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: cripplecreek

Alter or abolish it. We’ve drifted under globalists for an entire generation now, all to the detriment of America and Americans outside the Beltway.


42 posted on 04/19/2014 2:54:34 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Kackikat

I call BS on your claim.


43 posted on 04/19/2014 2:55:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
From listening to the recruitment ads, it's makes them sound like a Civil Defense Operation.

The NG should be on the Southern Border with effective RoE's.

44 posted on 04/19/2014 2:56:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I’m a little surprised to hear the National Guard has Apaches too.


45 posted on 04/19/2014 2:57:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Kackikat
What they are giving away are MRAPs, a vehicle the military bought just for doing convoy duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. As we draw down those forces the need for those vehicles declines and the government wants to excess them.

Those vehicle aren't being taken away from troops that need them or areas that need them.

46 posted on 04/19/2014 3:02:16 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: NELSON111
The National Guard does the same job for about 1/3 the cost.

They do? We have Airborne units in the Guard, but which one can replace the 82nd Airborne Division with a days, or a years notice?

47 posted on 04/19/2014 3:03:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: oldenuff2no

Add your name to the pledge to impeach. Of course, they’ll come for us first. :)

http://www.pledgetoimpeach.com/


48 posted on 04/19/2014 3:04:43 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Paladin2
The NG should be on the Southern Border with effective RoE's.

Then they would still be on active duty, and away from their homes and jobs and families, which is fine with me, but many on this thread don't like that idea.

49 posted on 04/19/2014 3:05:38 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Cyber Liberty

They fly A-10 Thunderbolts and now KC-135 Stratotankers out Of Selfridge ANG base near Detroit.

http://www.voicenews.com/articles/2014/04/18/life/doc53517a415188d437152345.txt


50 posted on 04/19/2014 3:05:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: USNBandit; Kackikat

In other words, no tanks.


51 posted on 04/19/2014 3:06:38 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

We are pulling armor out of Germany. Tanks aren’t going to civilian police


52 posted on 04/19/2014 3:09:40 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit; Kackikat

I obviously know that.


53 posted on 04/19/2014 3:11:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

I’ve seen a tank or two in the Pennsy National Guard convoys when going to training. Old, old memories so I thought I would search first...posted a month ago...

http://www.military.com/video/combat-vehicles/combat-tanks/ohio-national-guard-m1a1-tank-training/3357828168001/

2008 http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/08/oregon_national_guard_to_get_a.html

other articles in the list too.


54 posted on 04/19/2014 3:13:45 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: ansel12
Apache's are great attack helicopters, but maintenance night-mares.
Black Hawks are (relatively) easy to maintain (in comparison, anyways).
55 posted on 04/19/2014 3:16:53 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: ansel12

And why is saving 12 billion dollars a bad thing? ...IF it was true, good. But this figure comes from the Obama regime so we know it is a lie, ipso facto.


56 posted on 04/19/2014 3:21:06 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The same reason the National Guard needs guns. It is to protect us from all enemies - Foreign, Domestic, and Kenyan.


57 posted on 04/19/2014 3:24:00 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: huldah1776

Those are transfers to military units, not small towns.

There is nothing new about National Guard armor units having armor.


58 posted on 04/19/2014 3:24:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: lbryce

Obozo wants to control all the effective weapons so that Putin and the Chicoms will have almost no trouble when they invade the US. Another Red Dawn is in the offing, methinks. Wolverines!! mates. Keep your powder dry and stock up on the essentials.


59 posted on 04/19/2014 3:29:55 PM PDT by batterycommander (We will be the most powerful men in the Army because we will be Majors getting ready to retire.)
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To: ansel12
What 3,000 "tanks"?

An MRAP is considered a tank by some people. Street talk. The article did state "urban tank". Now did you hear urban associated with tank until this started? Lot's of luck saving that 12 billion too.

60 posted on 04/19/2014 4:22:10 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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