Posted on 10/31/2013 8:08:21 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama
I’ve been waiting for a Conservative ever since Reagan left. I kept hoping and hoping, and voting and voting (for the lesser of two evils).
I am DONE with the GOP, and have been for a while. Even if/when the GOP takes control of the Senate, or gains more seats in the House, nothing will change. You’ll have the same career politicians doing what they’ve done for the past 30 years. It’s all about power and reelection. They could give a rats ass about anything else.
I will vote 3rd party from now on. If that causes the GOP to collapse as a viable party, so be it. They are no different than the dems anymore. There certainly are few gonads between them.
Part me hopes for a revolution. We are way passed due for one. I figure that’s the best chance we have to restore our Constitution, even if it’s restored to fewer states.
Right on,right on.
Do you know about the heavy-handed ballot access laws in most states preventing or severely limiting a third party's right to be placed on ballots? In almost every case, large numbers of verified petition signatures must be attained before the election board will allow a name to be posted on a ballot. Republicans and Democrats in tacit collusion created these rules to suppress third parties.
Additionally, in an actual election, the GOP and Conservative candidates will always split the vote allowing the Democrat to win in every case.
The best strategy is to discredit the moderate RINOS for their ineffectual appeasement stance and take over the GOP. Goldwater and Reagan were able to do it in the early Sixties and with the current rudderless drift we are in, it can be done again.
Xacly.
Well first off giving up isn’t an option and should not be even mentioned as there’s enough negatives throughout the party without that hanging out there.
Additionally....how do we know we are even in a position to select a Presidential candidate ahead? I am completely convinced no matter what Romney was going to selected regardless .....and Santorum was thrown in to make sure that would happen. Are we going to see that again?????
Cruz is my choice at this point, if he runs...but be assured Ron Paul’s going to get in the fray as well.....and the Democrates would love to see Chris Christy run. So I can already see a replay of this last election....too many running and definately not enough support for the ones ‘WE’ otherwise wanted. And I didn’t include Palin as I accepeted long ago saying she would not desire to do so, though she can be greatly used in the ways she has many times expressed she wants.
Saying forming a “pact” is great...how???? I hvae my own ideas on that but others need to offer opinions. Whatever happens we need to narrow greatly to at most two we would support who choose to run...and most importantly debate it long before they actually leave the gate.
But the story was intended to inspire those who felt that something that could not be overcome can, indeed, be overcome.
Many do not realize what resolve does. Not strength or numbers...resolve.
I feared my husband. He was bigger, stronger, and there was that wanting to be loved krap.....
Sometimes you've just got to say, I'm not taking it anymore!
My exact thought was “if I'm gonna get beat up anyway, I'm getting my licks in as well”
If we are gonna go down, then go down fighting!
Then let’s form it right now.
Conservative candidate pact.
List of members. Who’s keeping the list?
“Heck we even see this happening on Fr as soon as someone is presented as a potential candidate for Pres....everyone jumps on rips them down....
Its not only the party...but the people who claim to be Republican and or Conservative .....they are never satisfied with whoever runs and cut our own throats.”
I can’t let that slide.
Good candidates will always win, lousy candidates will always lose big.
For example, look at Ronald Reagan and his vicious primaries against Ford and Bush. The GOP establishment did their best to destroy him and were just as vicious as the Dims, but Reagan won two landslide victories.
Now, let’s look at Mitt Trotsky. He didn’t lose because he had a tough primary. He lost because he sucked as a candidate. Even if you take out the voter fraud and disenfranchisement of active duty troops, Trotsky would have lost, because a lot of the base stayed home, since he was as exciting as damp cardboard.
Just a question....how many of you wishing for a 3rd party are PCP’s in the GOP?
This is what a pact is about.
Your concerns are legit.
I think we can ask those on our list to join the race.
Palin, Cruz, we approach them.
Who says we can’t?
Who says excitement won’t grow?
We form the pact, then discuss strategy.
Maybe we get nowhere. Would it be for lack of trying?
See post #9
Sounds like you are in?
“Let the RINOs leave and join the Democrats”
That would solve about 50% of the problem...the other 50% would be the old guard stop trying to fight by the old rules that democrats aren’t even remotely playing by. They need to change or leave.
“They are no different than the dems anymore.”
Yep.
Maybe I’m mistaking you with a different Freeper. But when the Snowden story just broke last summer, I was defending Snowden and another Freeper started to criticize my arguments, attack me for living in China and he defended NSA spying. After a while it got very annoying, so I turned off the computer and opened Free Republic the next morning. Fortunately, I reviewed the comments when I went MIA and I saw someone with a cat-related Freeper name pulverive the NSA supporter. I loved it.
I do believe Cruz has given enough evidence he's interested....his show in Iowa was great and the people there were excited about him.
Ron Paul keeps hinting....and Christy would jump on it...he's already been busy getting physically prepared. And lets remember this guy who has stated he wants to change the laws so he can run....and lookey here...he's already hob nobbing in Washington....
Meeting with Arnie duncan....He's already tredding the WAshington courts...Oct.13, 2013
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That is an outstanding essay. I feel the same way you do.
Good points, all.
So our first order of business is who we would want for a candidate. Whether or not they have tossed in their hats.
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