Posted on 08/27/2013 2:27:12 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
As we head into a potential government shutdown over the funding of Obamacare, the iconoclastic junior senator from Texas — love him or hate him — continues to stride across the national stage. With his presidential aspirations as big as everything in his home state, by now many know what has never been a secret: Ted Cruz was born in Canada.
But does that mean that Cruz’s presidential ambitions are gummed up with maple syrup or stuck in snowdrifts altogether different from those plaguing the Iowa caucuses? Are the birthers now hoist on their own petards, having been unable to find any proof that President Obama was born outside the United States but forcing their comrade-in-boots to disqualify himself by releasing his Alberta birth certificate?
No, actually, and it’s not even that complicated; you just have to look up the right law. It boils down to whether Cruz is a “natural born citizen” of the United States, the only class of people constitutionally eligible for the presidency. (The Founding Fathers didn’t want their newly independent nation to be taken over by foreigners on the sly.)
What’s a “natural born citizen”? The Constitution doesn’t say, but the Framers’ understanding, combined with statutes enacted by the First Congress, indicate that the phrase means both birth abroad to American parents — in a manner regulated by federal law — and birth within the nation’s territory regardless of parental citizenship. The Supreme Court has confirmed that definition on multiple occasions in various contexts.
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So the one remaining question is whether Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. That’s an easy one. The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.”
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BS troll.
Your boy Obama is not a NBC even IF he was born in Hawaii, nice try.
CAT , I meant CATO
CCP does some solid work here, you’re barking up the wrong tree.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! Is that YOU, Barack???? Born in Hawaii??....HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAhAhahaha Yeah.....right. Guess you are calling his GRANDMA a LIAR!!!
That this makes Obama OK to be Prez!!
Wow, imagine that, those who support the Constitution and its original intent are now denigrated because we don't support the questionable candidate de jour....on FR of all places.
Why don't we give Cruz a little time to EARN his bonifides instead of lapping at his feet because he's dishing up some red meat?
I don't know about you, but in the words of Eddie Murphy, I ain't falling for the banana in the tail pipe trick again.
Time will tell.
-PJ
I believe Cruz is loyal to the US. In fact nothing in his behavior would suggest otherwise. Meanwhile most other pols in Washington serve the anti American media and the foreign interests that control the media.
Except that does not pass the intent of the Founding Fathers.
About the Founders and being NBC, they thought this... "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens".
I just don't understand this Cruz for President infatuation - over a man who has been in federal public office for less than a year - when yet another clause of the Constitution has to be turned on its head in order for it to work. Cruz is a good guy, but as Theodore Roosevelt famously said, NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land!
There are a number of other good Republican candidates for the White House in 2016 who are head and shoulders above anything the 'Rats can offer and who pass the Natural Born Citizen test with flying colors.
Conform to the Constitution and pick an outstanding and constitutionally eligible candidate for the POTUS in 2016, and let Ted Cruz serve with distinction in the Senate for many years to come.
Kook alert.
Wikipedia quote is that "A person of exceptional merit, generally a non-United States citizen may, be declared an Honorary Citizen of the United States by an act of Congress, or by a proclamation by the President of the United States.....
Winston Churchill was born in Blenheim, England in the year 1874. His father was Lord Randolph Churchill. His mother was the former Jenny Jerome of Brooklyn, New York.
Winston Churchill was declared an honorary citizen of the United States, by a proclamation delivered by President John F. Kennedy.
I would presume then, that Winston was not considered an American citizen, let alone a natural born citizen. His mother then, could not give him citizenship if this was the case.
I like Cruz, don't get me wrong, but I'll jump on his ship after and when in time he has proved his self to my satisfaction.
"the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens".
And that is not relevant, Cruz has only one parent Citizen. Besides, they rescinded that in 1795.
If Congress has to determine by statute who is NBC, then said person is not Natural Born, are they.
FYI ping!
It’s true.
You are wrong, sir.
By renouncing his Canadian citizenship, he is a bona fide natural born citizen of the United States. The term refers to loyalty as well as geography. Study up.
” What I’d love to see Ted Cruz do is use his possible candidacy as a teachable moment - releasing his college funding records for example”
Now that I would love to see. Doing that would really get under Obama’s skin as well as his supporters because it would raise the issue why he never has released them.
Irrelevant!
And that is not relevant, Cruz has only one parent Citizen.
I was only addressing the foreign soil issue.
Besides, they rescinded that in 1795.
The 1790 Act (and the 1795 Act) were about Naturalization. Since NBC can't be legislated, the 1790 Act simply gives an indication of who the Founders thought were NBC.
If Congress has to determine by statute who is NBC, then said person is not Natural Born, are they.
See above comment.
“About the Founders and being NBC, they thought this... “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens”.
And then they repealed it 5 years later and removed the natural born Citizen language.
“You are wrong, sir.”
No, I’m not wrong. I’m entirely correct.
“By renouncing his Canadian citizenship”
Again. Ted Cruz obtained three citizenships. One, by his birthright, he’s a Canadian citizen. He has access to Canadian health care, the pension system up there. Everything, that most Americans do not have access, Ted has access to.
Two, he has Cuban citizenship by being the son of a Cuban national born in Cuba.
Three, he has American citizensy by being the son of an American national born in the United states.
So while it is correct that he’s been an American citizen - he is not a natural born American. His citizenship to Canada takes precedence, and his American citizenship is actually third - since most systems regard the father’s nationality as more important than the mothers.
“The term refers to loyalty as well as geography.”
Horsecrap. The constitution is explicit. Born on American soil. Nothing else qualifies. You can be a helluva patriot but you’re not a natural born American citizen unless born on American soil.
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