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CATO Institute & Daily Caller Declares Foreign-Born Persons Eligible To Be President
Obama Release Your Records ^ | 8-27-2013 | llya Shapiro

Posted on 08/27/2013 2:27:12 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

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To: campaignPete R-CT

Welcome to FR.


41 posted on 08/27/2013 4:13:22 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Timber Rattler

Facts are stubborn things.


42 posted on 08/27/2013 4:14:38 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: JCBreckenridge
He’s a natural born citizen of Canada, by virtue of having been born in Alberta.

Interstingly enough Canada doesn't require birth on Canadian soil for somebody to be NBC. (Nor do they require two citizen parents).

I guess the laws of nature must be different in Canada.

43 posted on 08/27/2013 4:14:52 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: BfloGuy

“By renouncing his Canadian citizenship, he is a bona fide natural born citizen of the United States. “

Not true at all. You can’t be born a Dual Citizen with split allegiances and then revert to a natural born Citizen just because you renounce the foreign allegiance. It doesn’t work that way. It was never meant to work that way. All it makes him is a U.S. code statutory Citizen.


44 posted on 08/27/2013 4:15:12 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Your boy Obama is not a NBC even IF he was born in Hawaii, nice try.”

Pity. You’re the one arguing that if it’s ok for Obama it’s good enough for us.

Some of us have higher standards. Others don’t think it’s important that the highest office of the land have a leader without divided loyalties.


45 posted on 08/27/2013 4:16:26 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: JCBreckenridge

Ted Cruz doesn’t even have a American birth certificate.


46 posted on 08/27/2013 4:17:44 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: JCBreckenridge
Pity. You’re the one arguing that if it’s ok for Obama it’s good enough for us.

Guess you don't read to good, eh?

Take off.

47 posted on 08/27/2013 4:18:34 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: FreeReign

“I guess the laws of nature must be different in Canada.”

Yawn. Twisting the definition is just par for the course. NBC - born on American soil. Try again.


48 posted on 08/27/2013 4:18:35 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Why would he? He has a Canadian birth certificate, same as everyone who’s born in Canada.


49 posted on 08/27/2013 4:19:13 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Take off.”

You first.


50 posted on 08/27/2013 4:19:49 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
“About the Founders and being NBC, they thought this... “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens”.

And then they repealed it 5 years later and removed the natural born Citizen language.

Well as we all know NBC status can't be legislated or repealed.

So why was it in there. Both Acts were really only about Naturalization.

I think the above in the 1790 Act simply shows that there was some confusion even back then about NBC.

51 posted on 08/27/2013 4:19:56 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: JCBreckenridge

Just making conversation.


52 posted on 08/27/2013 4:21:44 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: JCBreckenridge
Yawn. Twisting the definition is just par for the course. NBC - born on American soil. Try again.

And of course your above words don't appear anywhere in the Constitution.

Don't try again.

53 posted on 08/27/2013 4:22:00 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Las Vegas Ron
What if Cruz becomes POTUS and a dust up occurs between the US and Canada

... and Cuba.

54 posted on 08/27/2013 4:22:27 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
You first.

Will do, after your comprehension 101 class....let me know.

55 posted on 08/27/2013 4:24:59 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I've taken the presence of that language in the 1790 Act, as well as the later rescinding of it in the 1795 Act, to mean that Original Intent was not to preclude individuals born outside US jurisdiction to citizen parents (with residency restrictions) from being regarded as natural-born citizens.

But, there was a problem, clearly. The upshot was that individuals born under such circumstance were to be regarded as citizens only, and that has been the case ever since.

We have an example of individuals born outside the jurisdiction to citizen parents that has never been in dispute, and that would be children of diplomats. Why has this never been disputed? Because diplomatic relations require such representation to have diplomatic immunity, ie they're not under another jurisdiction.

Jurisdiction therefore is the problem in attempting to legislate such status. Some foreign sovereignties claim jurisdiction in the form of citizenship over all births within their geographic territory. Others don't.

56 posted on 08/27/2013 4:26:35 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: wideminded
the only reasonably solid evidence is that he was born in Hawaii.

LOLOLOL...widminded indeed!

57 posted on 08/27/2013 4:26:59 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: little jeremiah

Cruz is most likely playing to see who takes the bait and then turn them on their heads. He knows he’s not eligible. We’ll see.


58 posted on 08/27/2013 4:28:32 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: FreeReign
The 1790 Act (and the 1795 Act) were about Naturalization. Since NBC can't be legislated, the 1790 Act simply gives an indication of who the Founders thought were NBC.

I think I see where you're coming from, but why this then?

S.Res.511 - A resolution recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

59 posted on 08/27/2013 4:30:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: bgill
... and Cuba.

Agree.....have read here that his father was fighting with Castro against Batiste.

I'll catch a lot or crap for this, but the more I see of Cruz, the more he comes off like another political hack.

60 posted on 08/27/2013 4:35:03 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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