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TERRORISM and COUNTERTERRORISM: News, INFORMATION & Analysis #2
Free Republic | 4/11/2010 | FReeper Collaboration

Posted on 04/11/2010 9:33:03 AM PDT by Velveeta

TERRORISM AND COUNTERTERRORISM
      News, INFORMATION & Analysis

Obama amputates our nuclear arms

By: Charles Krauthammer

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Under President Obama’s new policy, however, if the state that has just attacked us with biological or chemical weapons is “in compliance with the Non-Proliferation Treaty,” explained Gates, then “the U.S. pledges not to use or threaten to use nuclear weapons against it.”

Imagine the scenario: Hundreds of thousands are lying dead in the streets of Boston after a massive anthrax or nerve gas attack. The president immediately calls in the lawyers to determine whether the attacking state is in compliance with the NPT. If it turns out that the attacker is up-to-date with its latest IAEA inspections, well, it gets immunity from nuclear retaliation. (Our response is then restricted to bullets, bombs and other conventional munitions.)

However, if the lawyers tell the president that the attacking state is NPT noncompliant, we are free to blow the bastards to nuclear kingdom come.

This is quite insane. It’s like saying that if a terrorist deliberately uses his car to mow down a hundred people waiting at a bus stop, the decision as to whether he gets hanged or 100 hours of community service hinges entirely on whether his car had passed emissions inspections.

Apart from being morally bizarre, the Obama policy is strategically loopy. Does anyone believe that North Korea or Iran will be more persuaded to abjure nuclear weapons because they could then carry out a biological or chemical attack on the United States without fear of nuclear retaliation?

The naivete is stunning.

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To: FARS; Cronos; no-to-illegals
It is mostly us, in the West, who insist on differentiating between political & spiritual Islam. They, in the ME, largely, don’t.

So? Does that make it OK? Acceptable?

If you were referring to a lack of distinction in the ME between political & spiritual Islam, it isn't about making it OK or acceptable. It simply means that they have an accurate view & understanding of Islam & call it for what it is.

Those who need convincing that it isn't OK or acceptable to insist on differentiating between political & spiritual Islam, are the ones in the West. Just as they differentiate between radical and moderate Islam. The list goes on.. Most of them are our politicians, our media & our 'intellectuals' & 'experts', in the West. Why do they do that? Well, I suspect a number of reasons.

does this not then invalidate Islam as a RELIGION by standards of virtually all other major religions as practised today

Cambridge dictionary defines:

Cult: "a religious group, often living together, whose beliefs are considered extreme or strange by many people". OR, "a particular system of religious belief" - it gives the example of: the Hindu cult of Shiva

Religion: " the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship". OR, "an activity which someone is extremely enthusiastic about and does regularly"

Additionally, it is also very appropriate to refer to Islam, as an ideology. "a theory, or set of beliefs or principles, especially one on which a political system, party or organization is based".

2,581 posted on 08/31/2011 1:08:50 AM PDT by odds
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To: Cronos; FARS; algernonpj; no-to-illegals
Islam is not a culture per se but rather an all-encompassing doctrine -- it governs every thing you do and say and read and even see. To compare this to Russian culture as the link does is just silly.

2 distinct points:

First, "Islam is not a culture per se; it is an all-encompassing doctrine." - Correct. Though 'culture' is an inherent component of it.

Equally, a religion, a set of religious beliefs or an ideology neither come about, nor exist or practiced in a vacuum or in isolation. They are dependent other factors. IOW, they are, Also, historically, politically, socially, culturally & economically specific to a nation, a race or even their sub-cultures & sub-groups. That's why Islam practiced in Indonesia is different to the one in Egypt, Albania or Iran, as examples. Though, they all share the same core. I'd suggest, the mentioned factors, also, contributed to the development of various sects or branches of Islam.

Secondly, about the Russians. Poster Viiit on the other site (link), says the following:

The change of group mentality takes centuries. Many people in the Muslim countries are aware of the value of democracy, many are intelligent and educated, yet, their group is not ready for democracy.

By the way, Russia too, is not ready for democracy. However Russians living in democratic countries are perfectly good members of those societies. The difference is that the underlying meta-program of the Russian mentality does not prevent them from assimilating and becoming cultural Anglo-Saxons with Russian accent."

By "meta-program", I take it he means what creates & controls decision making; inclusive of cultural & theological (religious) beliefs & values. I think he is spot on in his comment.

2,582 posted on 08/31/2011 1:16:32 AM PDT by odds
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To: odds

He is correct that Russians as a people are not ready for democracy as they are still imbibed with the tyrant ruling spirit since the Mongol invasion and the rise of Muscovy. I objected to him linking the two groups together, even tenuously.


2,583 posted on 08/31/2011 1:56:42 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Cronos
sufi'ism is milder than Wahabiism, but both are cancers.

There are hundreds of different Sufi schools. These were continuously invented over the centuries. The origins of Sufism is not in Islam, nor Mohammad. Although, Sufism, as a broad brush label, basically, in modern times, is applied to ANY "Islamic mysticism".

Those Sufi schools that passively 'submit' to the will of Allah, Sharia law, and use the hadiths, Sunnahs & the Koran (in addition to their own interpretation & other texts) are Islamic, or came into existence *after* Islam was spread & imposed.

In non-Arab countries such as Iran & Turkey, in order to incorporate their own pre-Islamic cultural & social traditions into Islam, and to minimise risk of persecution by Arab-Islamic invaders, they pretended to be "Islamic Sufis". Especially during early centuries, post-Islamic conquest. Iranian (Persian) poets such as Hafez and Khayyam (labelled as 'sufis') are good examples, when they talk about 'drinking wine', or 'Saghi' (the wine/cup-bearer).

Anyhow, most would probably know that 'Sufism' is not accepted as Islam by Shia, Sunni or other mainstream branches of Islam.

Interesting to consider your earlier remark about "Islam is not a culture per se but rather an all-encompassing doctrine", in a different context. That context being that Arab & Islamic scholars, to date, try to portray anything & everything as Islamic, "Islam inspired" or invented by Moslem-Arab figures.

These range from sciences, mathematics, geometry, to medicine, literature & architecture. When All of the mentioned utilise & draw up knowledge, developments, and practices that were indeed pre-Islamic, in the ME.

In that sense, Islam is, also, a very much "all encompassing way of life". After all, a bunch of bedouin Arabs had nothing to contribute to the mentioned fields. Post-Islamic invasion, it became known as "cultural manipulation", and pure misrepresentation of conquered lands & people.

So now, for example, instead of Iranian (Persian) civilisation, we keep hearing about "Islamic civilisation" & "the golden age of Islam". Of course, the fact the savage Moslem-Arabs burned libraries & all types of books (except their Mein Kampf i.e. the Koran) after their invasion, is conveniently omitted, by Arab & Western media, in general. Their actions further help cement the idea that the socalled "Islamic civilisation", due to Islam, was both tolerant & progressive in thinking & doing.

Now, we have little concrete & accurate historical materials to refer to or study about pre-Islam. Only the incessant bogus media coverage, which often implies that "civilisation" in the ME began with Islam, by Moslems & Arabs; when they brought their "godliness" & "golden age" to infidel countries. And, that those people, pre-Islam, must have been 'unholy' & lived in caves in Iran, as one example.

2,584 posted on 08/31/2011 5:25:12 AM PDT by odds
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To: odds; Cronos; FARS; algernonpj

Cross reference ... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2771460/posts?page=1


2,585 posted on 08/31/2011 8:36:51 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

thank you!


2,586 posted on 08/31/2011 1:03:26 PM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: no-to-illegals

Thanks. Sounds like Khomeini. At least this guy seems transparent about his intentions. Khomeini lied.


2,587 posted on 09/01/2011 2:37:53 AM PDT by odds
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To: odds; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ~Peter; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 3D-JOY; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ..

Gathered at this link below are links to CSPAN, YouTube and to a transcript for easy, brief format sharing - plus a couple of fun graphics.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/09/sarah-palin-restoring-america-event-my.html


2,588 posted on 09/03/2011 6:19:05 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: FARS

Thank you FARS.


2,589 posted on 09/03/2011 7:51:42 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry, Perry/Palin, Palin or Perry, Perry or Palin 2012....Any Questions?)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


2,590 posted on 09/03/2011 9:47:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ~Peter; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 3D-JOY; 4woodenboats; ...

We can only hope and pray the fraudster in chief is shown up to be the cheat and liar he is proving to be.

Federal HAWAII court to move forward.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/09/thanksgiving-for-america-but-not-obambi.html


2,591 posted on 09/05/2011 12:25:22 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: FARS

Hmmmm...maybe that’s why he is out today whipping his union goons up for a violent attack on republicans and the Tea party.

http://bigjournalism.com/pjsalvatore/2011/09/05/union-boss-intros-obama-in-detroit-threatens-tea-party-lets-take-these-sons-of-bitches-out/


2,592 posted on 09/05/2011 12:37:33 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: penelopesire; All

His only hope now is to “take down America” not just the Tea Party, using his Union goon army and Islamic jihadist support to achieve this.
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We were somewhat horrified by videos when Union goons roughed up some Republicans in 2008 at a couple of rallies and ACORN obtained tons of fraudulent votes.

You “ain’t seen nothing yet”! We are entering Obama’s “civil war” mode. Hopefully without bloodshed but still not clearly so.

Remember that Oba-Hussein has already built the ability to fund and deploy some 250,000 of his one million person Civilian Security Force into his ObamaCare!

They swear an oath NOT to the Constitution, as does the military, but to the Presidency!

And he is free to hire/recruit Union thugs, Chicago type gangsters plus trained terrorists he has “imported” among more than 10,000 Palestinian “refugees” at taxpayer expense. Some $900 MILLION tax dollars to relocate, house, feed and PAY them monthly inside the USA.

Still wonder why I said “civil war” in the making?

Who among a basically “naive” (comparatively to Obama/Alinsky Soviet tactics), inherently peaceful of character, law abiding Americans will rise to oppose the Marxist-Islamist strategy of Oba-Hussein and his increasingly criminal enterprise?

What will it take to trigger them into action?


2,593 posted on 09/05/2011 1:07:04 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: FARS

That’s a motion for a hearing, right? I’m not holding my breath.


2,594 posted on 09/05/2011 2:17:16 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: FARS

“They swear an oath NOT to the Constitution, as does the military, but to the Presidency!

And he is free to hire/recruit Union thugs, Chicago type gangsters plus trained terrorists he has “imported” among more than 10,000 Palestinian “refugees” at taxpayer expense. Some $900 MILLION tax dollars to relocate, house, feed and PAY them monthly inside the USA.”

FARS, YOU KNOW I THINK YOU ARE ‘DA BOMB’, ...BUT WHERE ARE THESE FACTS COMING FROM??

IF YOU HAVE LINKS, I NEED THEM FOR DISSEMINATION.


2,595 posted on 09/05/2011 7:57:26 PM PDT by bitt ( Obama is so unpopular now that the Kenyans say he was definitely born in Hawaii)
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To: FARS

Placemark for tomorrow reading.


2,596 posted on 09/05/2011 7:58:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


2,597 posted on 09/05/2011 9:23:09 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ~Peter; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 3D-JOY; 4woodenboats; ...

OMG!

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/09/omg.html


2,598 posted on 09/06/2011 7:31:03 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping, FARS. LOL! Good one!


2,599 posted on 09/06/2011 7:37:01 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: FARS

Lovin’ it!!!!!

Must

get

tee!!!!!!!


2,600 posted on 09/06/2011 7:40:17 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Mr. Weiner...Don' t Tweet your meat. It's too late to delete!)
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