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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Kevmo
No matter who wins in the next election, conservatism loses

that is the sad, sad truth

2,181 posted on 08/12/2012 7:28:07 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I worry about martial law, too. I saw (here?), though, that there is no federal election. It is a collection of 50 state (plus territory) elections. Even some Dem governors would discover a spine when faced with federal usurpation of state powers.

I fear the lame duck session. I fear more an unrestrained Marxist who hates America. I would not wish that on my son or his yet-unborn children, and I would never leave him with even the possibility of that kind of tyranny. I will NOT be AWOL.


2,182 posted on 08/12/2012 7:28:23 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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To: moovova

2,183 posted on 08/12/2012 7:29:23 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Gator113

You rock. A heck of a lot more than this lame Olympics finale...


2,184 posted on 08/12/2012 7:29:23 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Elsie

2012 - THE END OF AN ERROR!


2,186 posted on 08/12/2012 7:31:49 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: sf4dubya

” I’ll fight for someone’s right to worship a stone statue of a dog as long as they weren’t out to do others harm. “

So will I.

I will also fight for your right to state your opinions and reactions to the same stone dog worshipers including the right to say they are mislead, a cult, just plain wrong or even just plain nuts.


2,187 posted on 08/12/2012 7:32:02 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: going hot

Some of them? Hell, today it looks like all of them are posting here along with at least half of the Kos kids.


2,188 posted on 08/12/2012 7:33:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: DaveMSmith
Redemption is the Lord’s, not man’s. Romney said he has made mistakes.

No he hasn't, I don't recall him ever saying that his 60 years of political beliefs and actions before announcing his presidential run in 2006, were mistakes, or him apologizing for them.

When did Mitt say his pro abortion activism, fund raising and legislation were mistakes, or his pro-homosexual agenda commitment, or his anti-gun stance, or leaving the GOP because of Reagan winning the nomination, or supporting and fund raising for democrats, or all of his liberalism and anti-conservatism?

You said that "Romney said he has made mistakes", where, what mistakes?

2,189 posted on 08/12/2012 7:33:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Kevmo

Finally.. didn’t think I’d ever get to the end of the thread.. last time I was up this long (longer) was when we had a thread over 10k posts and were trying to dismantle a BC (2008, I think)..
Kevmo, I think you were there too...


2,190 posted on 08/12/2012 7:34:38 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Why, of course I am.


2,191 posted on 08/12/2012 7:35:46 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Kevmo
Your “belief that the country won’t survive” is what is not rational. Proceeding from that irrational belief is cowardice.

Really? If things continue as they are, I don't see how we avoid a currency collapse by 2014, 2015 at the latest. How is this irrational? I am not the only person expecting this.

Furthermore, if you are familiar with Cloward-Piven, you know this strategy has been systematically implemented since day one of Obama's administration. It is no accident that the Senate has not produced a budget for the past three years. That way, the CRs continue the *massive* spending levels from the 2009 budget. This is designed to culminate in an an eventual financial collapse. How is this irrational? Do you really believe we can continue spending at these levels without a collapse?

And when the currency does collapse, it will be with all the attendant nastiness -- hyperinflation, chaos, panic and public outcries for the the government to "do something."

And if you think that with Obama in the White House, this country emerge from that crisis as a constitutional republic, then you are the one who is being irrational. It is *the* crisis they have been working for, the one Cloward and Piven foresaw as necessary in order to impose on the U.S. what its citizens would never vote for at the ballot box. It is the crisis they will not let go to waste.

2,192 posted on 08/12/2012 7:36:55 PM PDT by kevao
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To: FreeReign

If the choice is binary between the two, I vote for the former. Don’t even try to understand chumly. You’re not smart enough.
***Your ‘binary choice’ is between a lying, baby-killing statist with a D by his name and a lying, baby-killing statist with an R by his name. Since you’re so much smarter than me, you’ll realize that whoever wins, conservatism loses... chumly.


2,193 posted on 08/12/2012 7:38:06 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: nicmarlo
Why, of course I am

... in ways you can not, and will never, even remotely comprehend.

Passive-aggression is like that, I'm lead to understand.

2,195 posted on 08/12/2012 7:38:37 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I wish you’d refrain from posting pictures of yourself on a family forum. You may be proud of what you look like, and your childish behavior abounds, but it’s quite beneath even average conservative standards.


2,196 posted on 08/12/2012 7:40:20 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
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Perdiction:

... nasty, insulting, offensive posts. And if some hapless fool happens to mention in passing that Pink Floyd sucks, which of course is true, then count on...


2,197 posted on 08/12/2012 7:40:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: sf4dubya
Do you own an Apple iPad or iPhone?

My iPhone doesn't force me to misuse words with clearly established definitions, no. Yours is different, of course.

demonizing people in battleground states for getting the Marxist out

Point to it.

2,198 posted on 08/12/2012 7:41:00 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If they were genuinely intelligent enough to teach (or even to simply train), they wouldn’t be CINOs in the first place. ;)
***I don’t think you understand the CINO mentality. They look down on conservatives. They think we’re stupid. They cannot understand why there are so many of us and why we hold so dearly to our ‘guns & religion’ or our principles. They are simply republicans. They look at this site as a parade that they want to get into the front of so they can lead it. They’re actually quite intelligent. But they do not hold to the same principles as conservatives, they think everything is negotiable, or as they like to think, pragmatic. They get pissed when we do not yield those principles which they hold so much contempt for.


2,199 posted on 08/12/2012 7:41:52 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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