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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Love your poster.

But I do not believe nor have I read that Jim Robinson is a hate-filled, bigot who spends his time cutting and pasting anti-Mormon (or any other religion) crap.

Perhaps I was wrong.

However, today it may be the Mormons. Tomorrow, perhaps it will be the Jews.

I do not believe in attacking ANYONE’S religion unless they use that religion as a weapon.

I believe this to be a conservative discussion website where people of all faiths are welcome. While I have always known there weren’t many Jews here, I have always felt at home.

When I see a peaceful religious group attacked and maligned, I am bound to speak up. If no one had spoken up for the Jews- I wouldn’t be here today.

I am so sad to see what has happened here. I hate the idea that this great place will be divided in the “name of G*d”. It’s just awful.


1,861 posted on 08/12/2012 3:10:52 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: mojitojoe
I have never seen such hatred on FR.

Tell ya what, Joe.

Edit the saved thingy ya got, highlighting the HATRED stuff.

We'll start a NEW thread; just about your detective work, and these damned MORMON 'haters' and 'BIGOTs' will be SO ashamed that they will HAVE to leave of their own accord.


Can ya hurry and do that?

1,862 posted on 08/12/2012 3:11:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

Just barely!


1,863 posted on 08/12/2012 3:12:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: swpa_mom
I am voting for Mitt Romney. Absolutely.

It seems that Mr. Robinson has given me no direction that I should leave FreeRepublic, so unless you’re speaking for him.......

Unlike what we did to Sarah Palin in 2008, I’m with her on this one, *I* have their back. You can sit and observe.

Great post, swpa_mom.

1,864 posted on 08/12/2012 3:12:31 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I don’t think it is a real hate site either... not yet anyway but I have taken a lot of flack for directing some friends, family and co-workers here. I considered posting their emails but decided against it. Of course it’s impossible to post the phone calls I got and how I tried to explain FR wasn’t like that until the past few months.


1,866 posted on 08/12/2012 3:13:43 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: sf4dubya
Hey Elsie, I am so happy you finally outed yourself as someone who doesn’t support a conservative for US Senate simply because he is a Mormon.

I DID?

I'll have to quit typing and sleeping at the same time!

1,867 posted on 08/12/2012 3:13:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jeff Chandler

OMG, I am LMAO!


1,868 posted on 08/12/2012 3:14:46 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Colofornian
Prophecy coming to fruition and God's Word not heeded...

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to DESTRUCTION, and MANY enter through it."

"But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to LIFE, and only a FEW find it." Matt 7:13,14

1,869 posted on 08/12/2012 3:15:28 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: mojitojoe
I feel bad for the good Freepers that are Mormons, like Jeff Head.

Me, too!

I'd HATE to be one of them and KNOW the judgement to come!!!!


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

1,870 posted on 08/12/2012 3:15:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sf4dubya
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1,872 posted on 08/12/2012 3:16:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Kevmo
Naw. It just exposes you lack reading comprehension skills. As I said before, my English grammar and/or spelling skills aren’t requirements for posting boards and I’m unconcerned with proving them to you. Thanks for your concern though, Kevmo.
1,873 posted on 08/12/2012 3:17:32 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Jim Robinson
Those who can put aside their conservative principles momentarily to vote for the lesser evil should go ahead and do so. It would be a tremendous boost to the grassroots to derail Obama, but doubt the father of RomneyCARE will be much better.

Jim, I share your "doubts" about Romney. His past record of liberalism followed by his so-called late conversion to conservatism makes him an uncertain, unreliable and unlikely conservative.

But I also know that when it comes to conservatism, the Marxist is an absolute Zero. There is Zero chance he will do anything conservative.

Come election day, if there is no likely alternative, I will go with the one who might be (although unlikely) a conservative president over the one who will always be a Marxist president.

And I would do so not "putting aside" my conservative priciples, but instead trying to meet my conservative principles, for my family, for my country and for future generations yet to be born.

1,874 posted on 08/12/2012 3:17:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: The KG9 Kid

2nd


1,875 posted on 08/12/2012 3:18:25 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: CWSNTEXAS
The are disgusting in their vitriol and will be exposed to all who sit and watch.


Uh; I used Vitalis when I was younger; so perhaps THAT is where I'm coming from.

If not; then read some Mormon 'SCRIPTURE'.


THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.
 
 

Whatever HAPPENED to Emma???
 
Eliza was a devout Mormon.
 
At age 38, she became Joseph Smith's 14th plural wife (in addition to Smith's lawful wife, Emma).
 
In 1842, after learning Eliza was pregnant, Emma Smith beat Eliza with a broomstick and
knocked her down a flight of stairs, causing Eliza to miscarry Smith's baby.
Wow!!
 
I guess ol' Emma got VAPORIZED by GOD!!!
 
We know that multiply him thing sure didn't work out!          
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Joseph_Smith,_Jr.

1,876 posted on 08/12/2012 3:18:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian; Colonel_Flagg

How much are you willing to wager on either Goode or Hoefling? I say, neither one wins the presidency in November. Want to take me on? If either Goode or Hoefling wins (see, you even get TWO chances!), then you win the bet. So, how much are you willing to wager? I’m sure we can find some mutually accepted third party to hold our bets until the election returns are in.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of ABO. Implicit in ABO is that Obama *must* be defeated. Goode, Hoefling or Mickey Mouse write-ins don’t fit that bill. And sorry, Colonel Flagg, your protestations to the contrary, that simple observation does not rob Goode or Hoefling of their personhood a la the Dredd Scott case (LMFAO!). Although Mickey Mouse, on the other hand....

ABO should really be ABOWCW (Anybody But Obama Who Can Win).


1,877 posted on 08/12/2012 3:18:55 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Elsie

You are certainly entitled to your own opinions, as am I. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this, Elsie.


1,878 posted on 08/12/2012 3:19:41 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: CWSNTEXAS
Jews study the words of Jesus. They always have.

Now that I did not know. What is the consensus of Who Jesus is, generally, among Jews. Do they consider Him a prophet, or is He looked at as Someone heretical? (I am sincere in the question. I can only go by my understanding of how He was looked at by the Jewish leaders in His day, according to New Testament Scriptures, and many did not approve of Him.)

1,879 posted on 08/12/2012 3:23:02 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: FreeReign
And I would do so not "putting aside" my conservative priciples, but instead trying to meet my conservative principles, for my family, for my country and for future generations yet to be born.

Amen - most beautifully said. It's not conservatism to pretend that the best answer to a horrible choice is the fantasy alternative. Bless you and all with strong enough principles to think and act like you.

1,880 posted on 08/12/2012 3:24:10 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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