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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: LucyT

Didn’t he write a letter to the Kapi’olani Medical Center saying he was born there?


8,821 posted on 08/12/2009 7:43:30 AM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: El Gato

Sorry for the misnomer. I have seen it put both ways. At Harvard, there is no Master’s thesis in the Arts and Science degree programs. The degree is usually given after completion of required courses and passing general exam.


8,822 posted on 08/12/2009 8:21:26 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: LucyT

It’s a good question. He may have done, although I can’t immediately put my finger on it. Also, it depends what you make of that mysterious letter to the Hawaiian hospital, posted on the website and used for fundraising, then taken down. Did Obama write that, or not? Still no answer.

What’s more telling to me is the on-line COLB. It was posted by an anonymous third party on Daily Kos, which is not an Obama web site. I’m pretty sure that Obama has NEVER spoken directly about this COLB, or said that it was real, but has allowed his flunkies to do so.

The nearest it came was the assertion that it was genuine on the FightTheSmears website, which was sponsored by Obama but still has deniability—i.e., he could explain that his friends and flunkies were mistaken about it and he forgot to correct them. And, of course, FightTheSmears has now vanished.

Interesting, because Obama has not hesitated to lie about other matters which are less legally dangerous. For instance, he has said that “I was NEVER a Muslim,” which is clearly an outright lie, since he was born a Muslim, adopted a Muslim, trained as a Muslim, studied the Qran, went to the mosque for prayers, etc. He could have said “I am not a Muslim,” and there would be no way to disprove that. But religion is a private matter, in modern thinking a matter of opinion not fact, so he was safe in saying that.


8,823 posted on 08/12/2009 8:26:14 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: patlin
Obama’s own admission of being a dual national at birth, is all that is needed to confirm without a doubt, he is not qualified as an Article II natural born citizen

Without a doubt?

Wow, it's really simple.

Just call the US Marshals to escort President Biden to his office, and we're done?

Amazing.

8,824 posted on 08/12/2009 8:39:35 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I wouldn't put a lot of weight into a lack of distance knowledge.

My husband has been long haul trucking for over 30 years and I constantly have to correct his sense of distance, lol.

When he tells me the rest area is only 15 miles, rest assured it will usually always be atleast a minimum of an hour before the potty break! :)

8,825 posted on 08/12/2009 8:40:20 AM PDT by patlin
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To: LucyT; BP2; Tennessee Nana; hoosiermama; Fred Nerks; David; All
Somebody's link led me to a site where I found this about Obama Sr's support in Hawaii Link BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA: OBAMA'S CHRONOLOGICAL HISTORY 2008:

He was NOT an East-West Center grantee, though he did associate with them as part of the group at Atherton Hall on the campus. Not being an East-West Center grantee meant that he was living on a very small stipend without assistance from the US government. Later there was some assistance as "fallout money" in 1960, but still it was very little. In essence, Obama lived in poverty. An article by Michael Dobbs in The Washington Post, states that Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, provided most of the financial support in Obama Sr's early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University. According to a letter on file in the Mboya papers at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, "most" of Obama Sr.'s early expenses in the United States were covered by an international literacy expert named Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, who had traveled widely in Kenya. Kirk wrote to Mboya in May 1962 to request additional funds to "sponsor Barack Obama for graduate study, preferably at Harvard." She said she would "like to do more" to assist the young man but had two stepchildren ready for college. (Source: Wikipedia and Washington Post.)

This is the first that I've read these names. Does anybody know anything about them? Is this a credible site (source)?

8,826 posted on 08/12/2009 8:41:36 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Jim Noble

LOL, do I detect a bit of sarcasm there?


8,827 posted on 08/12/2009 8:43:30 AM PDT by patlin
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Who paid his bar tabs?


8,828 posted on 08/12/2009 8:46:21 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: fanfan

Yes, it appears so BUT whitehouse WILL NOT CONFIRM that the letter is real. As with all else Obama, it’s a mystery


8,829 posted on 08/12/2009 8:48:26 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Cicero

Besides that falls under Al Taqqiyah...


8,830 posted on 08/12/2009 8:51:36 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 203 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Maybe Panamanians think peaches taste like that normally as awful as they are in their green state but look ripe.

Not just Panamanians -- everybody. A real, tree ripened peach is just about the best thing you can imagine, but unless you live near the source you never experience it. I get so mad at my husband. He is always buying nectorines (a fuzzless derivative of a peach) in the winter. They look gorgeous and taste awful. He's always fooled by his imagination when he sees the blushing skin of the nectorine and thinks that it is going to be juicy and ripe when he cuts into it. ARRrggghh! If either peaches or nectorines are hard to the touch, just leave them in the market. You are sure to be disappointed, no matter how pretty their skins look. The Michigan peaches should be coming in a week, or so. If I were to head to Georgia and South Carolina now, their wonderful peaches would already be gone and the stands closed. You are making me hungry, Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) !

8,831 posted on 08/12/2009 8:52:53 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Read Fred Nerks’ posts on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts


8,832 posted on 08/12/2009 8:56:31 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: patlin

Well, I was really thinking more about the length of the drive. Some have speculated that Ann’s friend actually picked them up in San Francisco, rather than Seattle on her way back from Santa Cruz. Again, my laziness prevents me from getting out, or Googling, a map, but my gut (from having lived and traveled in the area) is that Santa Cruz is somewhat less than 180 miles from San Francisco — and that would take more than 4 hours to drive in 1960. For one thing you probably would take the Coast Highway 1, or slightly inland CA Hwy 101. Hwy 1 is very twisty, although scenic, but it would take forever. 101 is not quite so bad, but it was still not a high speed highway — lots of stops and starts as it wends its way through little towns. Speed limit was between 55-60 mph. There was nothing that could be called a “Freeway” in Northern CA in those days. The great North South Interstate 5 had not been completed in 1961. In any case, it was not near Santa Cruz.

Jes sayin’...


8,833 posted on 08/12/2009 9:03:31 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: hoosiermama
Who paid his bar tabs?

Sounds like anybody who would...the kindness of strangers...Elizabeth Mooney Kirk...

8,834 posted on 08/12/2009 9:05:20 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Yes, the PCH would have been the preferred route. Santa Cruz is just on the west side of Salinas where our trucks frequent to load produce.

Back in the early 60’s it would have been about a 2 hr drive from SC to SF.

Beautiful country unless you are in a semi.

8,835 posted on 08/12/2009 9:13:50 AM PDT by patlin
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To: Jedidah
I don’t believe for one minute that they allowed Stanley Ann to live at home while she was pregnant and subject them to disgrace, unless they locked her up. And she doesn’t seem the type who would be hidden willingly. They shipped her — figuratively or literally — off somewhere, and that precludes a Hawaiian birth. Canada? Kenya? How?

Thinking about Young Adult (YA) literature of even ten years later (Blossom Elfman's The Girls of Huntington House, 1972) I would imagine she'd have been sent to a home for unwed mothers. I'm trying to think about how the culture of that time was, and this would seem to be very likely.

8,836 posted on 08/12/2009 9:14:06 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Elizabeth Mooney Kirk
Elizabeth Mooney Kirk From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search

Elizabeth Mooney Kirk (February 23 1914 - June 29 2004) (known by many as Betty) spent her entire life advancing adult literacy. She worked with Frank Laubach using his "Each One Teach One" reading method. She traveled and taught worldwide including India, Africa and United States. While working in Kenya, she provided the financial support for Barack Obama, Sr. to come to the United States to study.

Kirk co-authored many books with Dr. Frank Laubach and son Dr. Robert Laubach, which are still in use to teach adults to read English. In this role, her work included running a mission boarding school in India and for two years she was head of a project for the British Government in Kenya training teachers and adults to read in some of the tribal languages.

In Kirk's work in Kenya, she often helped find sponsorships for promising students study in the United States. An article by Michael Dobbs in The Washington Post, states that Kirk, provided most of the financial support in Obama Sr's early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University. Kirk is also mentioned in Barack Obama's 1995 book, Dreams from My Father (pg 427 hardcover) as writing college recommendation letters for Obama Sr.

Kirk's grandfather was Addison Clark who with brother founded Addran Male and Female Academy which became Texas Christian University. She earned a master¹s degrees from George Washington University and Syracuse University. In 1960 Kirk married Elmer LeValley Kirk. They lived for a time in West Africa before moving to California. Kirk taught school in the Oakland area for many years before retiring to central California.

[edit] Sources San Luis Obispo Tribune 7/8/2004, Elizabeth Mooney Kirk Obituary Washington Post 3/30/2008. "Obama Overstates Kennedys' Role in Helping His Father" Michael Dobbs.


8,837 posted on 08/12/2009 9:16:17 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rxsid

http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=2910


8,838 posted on 08/12/2009 9:29:37 AM PDT by Poparhoid
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To: afraidfortherepublic
from a 2005 obituary on Elmer LeValley Kirk
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~caillet101/2005_Tuscola_County_MI_Obits.html

...
Elmer was preceded in death by his first wife of 20 years, Gladys Hawley Kirk, who passed away in 1958; his second wife of 44 years, Sara Elizabeth “Betty” Mooney Kirk, who passed away in 2004; his brothers, J. Ralston Kirk, W. Alan Kirk and Maurice D. Kirk; and a grandson, Aaron E Kirk. ...

8,839 posted on 08/12/2009 9:35:41 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’m thinking of a “Port of Entry” with US Customs at SFO in Aug 1961, under Obama or Dunham ...


8,840 posted on 08/12/2009 9:37:51 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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