Skip to comments.Elderly Couple Hospitalized After Cops Raid Wrong House
Posted on 03/23/2006 10:59:34 AM PST by seacapn
HORN LAKE, Miss. An unidentified elderly Horn Lake couple were hospitalized Thursday after police burst into their home thinking it housed a methamphetamine laboratory.
The incident occurred Wednesday about 4 a.m., said police Capt. Shannon Beshears. Beshears said it was the right address but the wrong house.
Beshears said a heavily armed Tactical Apprehension Containment Team stormed the house.
"We had good information from a reliable source that had been backed up by a purchase of narcotics linked to the address. However, when we arrived at the designated address, there were two houses on the lot. We hit the larger of the two houses.
"It was the wrong house," Beshears said. "The house was totally dark and the TACT members went through to the bedroom looking for the suspects."
A man and a woman both in their 80s were injured as TACT team members secured the house although no drugs were found. There were children in the house also, but they were not awakened, Beshears said.
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You guys live in a fantasy world. I was on a SWAT team and can speak about this procedure from an experts point of view. This is how it works in laymans terms. Officer gets a search warrant base on his testimony to a judge. He calls us and says I have a warrant to hit a house. He gives us description and address. We drive by and do a look over and plan raid. If address and description match what is written in the warrant we saddle up and execute warrant. Once scene is secure we leave.
Bottom line, officer who gets the warrant and gives the info to the SWAT team is at fault and retains culpability for the veracity of the info. SWAT goes where it is asked and has the lawful instrument supporting that position. Research the actual procedure involved before condemning all who are on scene.
Why are SWAT teams crashing into peoples homes?
16 posted on 03/23/2006 11:12:26 AM PST by 300magnum
Because they can. Secure in the knowledge that nothing will be done about.
At one time in the past there were lawabiding people and the police on one side and the criminal element on the other side.
Now it is only the police against everyone else. The lawople have been lumped in with the criminal element.
"I too have "secured" persons in the dark ( some raids are perform in the night and you do not turn on the lights as you run through the house ) that after the fact I realize I was a bit to rough on, but that is the nature of the job. The first time you relax and slow down is the time someone sees you coming and fires shots through the door at you, hits you with a baseball bat, takes a hostage, or jumps out a window."
Must be rough to have to work under that sort of paranoiac anxiety.
"Those criminals need to be arrested and charged with multiple felonies."
You must be referring to the "criminal" cops who break into to peoples homes with the HOPE of finding something. What would happen if the home owner shot one of the cops?
Common sense never got the jackboots bigger budgets, shooting pets and roughing old people works great though.
Wouldn't change much, they're cloning them now.
I really hate this stuff. I hate the ninja-geared dynamic-entry small-town SWAT bulls--t. Way too often, the cops would rather 'get some' in a midnight no knock dynamic entry raid than do boring, methodical police work. Barf!
Also raises another question. If the police break down a door in a wrongfull raid and an officer is shot and killed by the occupant but the homeowner isn't, would it be possible that homeowner be vindicated?
This type of inexcusable incident should incur a visit and investigation by the local FBI office and subsequent felony charges.
Then knee jerkers like you scream when some guy runs when you try and arrest him in town and either causes a high speed pusuit ( much more dangerous and unpredictable by ststistic and fact ) or takes hostages when he gets home or runs into your house or business.
Yeah, good answer, not.
Likek I said 1 raid out of all the hundreds that go perfectly and you guys are ready to throw the baby out with the bath water. You would make a good bureaucratic police commissioner who wants to please every one.
99% of raids go off like a charm because the act is performed covertly and quickly to maintain control of the scene.
If you want to play soldier, join the Marines. This bounce-them-around attitude just to get an adrenaline rush is getting way old, and is using up any respect us law abiding citizens had. I, and many others, no longer trust you. With 80-year-old couples being hospitalized, and cops arresting people in BARS for drinking, things are spinning out of control.
I have all ideas the homeowner would go down in a hail of lead so thick he'd gain a dozen pounds at his time of death.
So, it sounds like the only saftey concerns are your own saftey and damn any innocent people who might be in the house bacause "that's the nature of the job." If this is the type of mindset drilled into these officers then I have as much to fear from my local SWAT team as I do from any drug dealers in the community.
I lasted 12 years ( 7 on SWAT ) before I went to relaxed pastures.
You know innocent homeowners like to wake up in the morning as well.
Don't spew your BS about harrowing you volunteered you cant take the heat then get the hell out of the kitchen, why don't you try entering under RPG and crew served MG and then talk to me about harrowing.
SO tell me wise guy you are at home 0300 you hear glass breaking followed by a flash bang or CS what do you do knowing that you have done nothing wrong?
Take the gamble that they are real JBT's and that they are not home invaders that will rape you wife and kids while you watch before executing you?
Take the gamble that they are home invaders and bleed out after you take a few of the entry team out with you or end up on death roe
I would sincerely HOPE the informant was asked if there was anything ambiguous about that address, such as multiple buildings.
I guess that I, and others here, lack the bravery and courage to kick down the door of a couple of senior citizens and send both of them to the hospital.
39 posted on 03/23/2006 11:30:20 AM PST by Mulder
Right on. We do not get on the sounds of bones breaking and beating up individuals who cannot fight back. What cowards they are.
'Hitting' a house should only occur in a hostage situation where an on-scene negotiator has determined that the lives of the hostages are immediate jeaporady. Not for a bunch yo-yos in ninja gear over some meth.
WHAT A LOAD OF BOVINE EXCREMENT OF AN EXCUSE -- WHASSA MATTER, NOT ENOUGH FLASHLIGHTS???
1 Logging workers 92.4 85
2 Aircraft pilots 92.4 109
3 Fishers and fishing workers 86.4 38
4 Structural iron and steel workers 47.0 31
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.2 35
6 Farmers and ranchers 37.5 307
7 Roofers 34.9 94
8 Electrical power line installers/repairers 30.0 36
9 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 27.6 905
10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 24.2 67
There's the top ten most dangerous jobs in America, death rate for 100,000 and total deaths per year. I don't see cop anywhere on that list, spare me the "danger" speech. Funny, but none of the occupations on that list are allowed carte blanche to violate the publics' civil rights either. Being a SWAT jackboot is exponentially less dangerous than being a garbarge man. LMAO
I live next door to an 80 year old widow and I suspect that she is feeding stray cats. I am going to kick her door in tonight and tackle her so the cats stop urinating in my flowerbed. Then I will feel like a real man...
Why don't you just set up .50 caliber machine guns up in front of the house and rake it good first?
''Nerve'' to do the job has nothing to do with this matter and is an example of a weak attempt at anti-intellectual distraction of the facts. We each choose the job we do and the law imposes on each of us the duty to do that job in a lawful manner and without negligently inflicting injury on another person. To assert that: '' the officers on the entry team are not at fault'' is just another excuse for a universal justification for any wrongful conduct engaged in by a person so long as he purports to be enforcing the law. Thus, a badge and gun is carte blanche and license to be as unreasonable and negligent as one chooses to be because he knows the community will be overwhelmed by the aura of his uniform and the potential danger he faces and hold him harmless.
Hey, I was one of those!
I did not say I beat anyone, I said a little rough, as in snatching someone from a couch, chair, or bed and putting them on the floor quickly. Most people fought back out of instinct so you have to force the issue.
I am sorry you and others are too myopic you get the point. I will stop trying to educate you and let you all revel in your "oh lets disband all police departments and do it ourselves" crowd. If you can do it better have at it slick. One reason I quit because of people like you second guessing every thing we did from the security of you computer.
I think your list is wrong.
#1 should read: Retired 80 year old elderly couple sleeping
That is if you consider retirement an occupation. I consider sleeping an occupation :)
I was a Marine ( 3 years in RECON ) so what's you point superman. You want to compare Johnsons?
Oh, far be it from us, mere citizens, to second guess our heavily armed para-military police force masters.
We're just too myopic to understand.
Someone else once posted the bottom of that list.
Gardeners were more likely to die on the job than police.
Chivalry is dead.
Judging from your attitude, the public is much safer with you at a computer.........
That damned Ernest T. Bass....playing tricks on Barney like that!!!
I think flea was referring to paid occupations - which, on second thought, after the lawsuit on this one sleeping just might fall on the well-paid list of occupations...
It is excellent that the entire public got involved in these discussions, not just the "experts" like you. It is excellent that you quit finding that you were not up to the public expectations.
"I'll bet it's just about impossible to fall down flat on your face and get a "dislocated shoulder" or "bruised ribs"
just guessing here but i bet you've never cared for any elderly people.....
If you were a Marine recon, you are a certified badass and I respect you sincerely.
My favorite uncle retired a Sgt Major, and was always a hero to me.
Sounds like you're saying, "I was just following orders."
Also sounds like there's no limit to the orders you'd follow.
"The officers on the entry team are not at fault".
I guess it was the old folks fault for being at home when the jackbooted thugs decided to terrorize them?
Exactly whose fault do you think it was?
"I prefer to go home every night and not leve my safety up to arm chair QB's who haven't the nerve to do the job others do."
It takes a lot of nerve to beat up old people sleeping in their home, and then brag about the safety and comfort of your own home.
Let me know how it turns out.
Anybody ever wonder why it took a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol, yet there is a 'war on drugs' without one? It's an unconstitutional war.
Cops beating up old people and shooting people 'by mistake' all because they have been *trained* to think that everyone is out to kill them. Truth be known, the 'police force' is largely a bunch of wannabe tough-guys who only get brave when the power of the state is behind them.
Legalize drugs, let the druggies kill themselves w/ cheap dope and leave everybody else alone! Zoned-out druggies are a lot less dangerous that militarized cops who think everybody else is the enemy.
That's just it. It's nobody's fault. It never is.
Hey...........Not bad for a lawyer........I kinda like you.
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