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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Great Marianas Turkey Shoot (19-20 June, 1944) - June 22nd, 2003
http://www.angelfire.com/fm/odyssey/1.htm ^ | David James

Posted on 06/22/2003 4:32:16 AM PDT by snippy_about_it



Dear Lord,

There's a young man far from home,
called to serve his nation in time of war;
sent to defend our freedom
on some distant foreign shore.

We pray You keep him safe,
we pray You keep him strong,
we pray You send him safely home ...
for he's been away so long.

There's a young woman far from home,
serving her nation with pride.
Her step is strong, her step is sure,
there is courage in every stride.
We pray You keep her safe,
we pray You keep her strong,
we pray You send her safely home ...
for she's been away too long.

Bless those who await their safe return.
Bless those who mourn the lost.
Bless those who serve this country well,
no matter what the cost.

Author Unknown

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FReepers from the The Foxhole
join in prayer for all those serving their country at this time.

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The Battle of the Philippine Sea
19-20 June 1944


In September 1943 Japanese Imperial Headquarters resolved that in the near future the entire strength of their fleet would be deployed against the US Navy in a great decisive battle, and that in this battle the enemy fleet would be destroyed "in one blow." By the Spring of 1944 Japanese commanders had decided that the decisive encounter was imminent, and on 3 May the order for the operation - "A-Go" - was issued.



The A-Go Plan was based on the assumption that when the great battle came about the American fleet would be carrying out an offensive in the Central Pacific and that the Japanese would therefore have the advantage of numerous island air-bases within range of the scene of battle. The Japanese command knew that their forces would suffer from a considerable inferiority in carrier airpower, and they were therefore depending on their own land-based air-power to redress the balance.

On June 15 1944 the initial US landings in the Marianas took place - on the island of Saipan. The Japanese had been hoping and expecting that the American attack would come in the Carolines or the Palaus, to the south of the Marianas, and closer to the main Japanese sources of fuel. Their land-based aircraft had been disposed accordingly - with relatively weak forces in the Marianas.

Thus the great operation began with a setback for Japanese strategic hopes. Another blow to their expectations was that the threat from American submarines restricted Japanese carriers to their anchorage, so that they were unable to conduct proper flight training in the run-up to the battle.


Lieutenant Vraciu shot down six Japanese aircraft in less than eight minutes. One aircraft was destroyed as it tried to crash into an American destroyer.


A preliminary US carrier strike in the Marianas on June 11 persuaded Admiral Toyoda, C-in-C of the Combined Fleet, that this was where the next landings would take place, and accordingly Japanese forces began to converge on the Marianas for the decisive battle. Their main groupings made rendezvous on June 16 in the western part of the Philippine Sea and completed refuelling on June 17. By the evening of that day Admiral Ozawa, commanding the Japanese forces, had reasonably accurate intelligence of the composition of the US fleet. A few minutes after midnight 17/18 June, Ozawa - in the tradition of the Japanese Navy - issued a final exhortation to all the ships of his fleet : "This operation has an immense bearing on the fate of the Empire. It is hoped that all forces will do their utmost and attain results as magnificent as those achieved in the Battle of Tsushima."

Spruance's Decision


The Japanese forces had been sighted by American submarines as early as June 15. By June 16 Admiral Spruance, commanding the US Forces (the Fifth Fleet), was satisfied that a major sea battle was approaching, and made plans accordingly. By the afternoon of June 18 Task Force 58 (the Fast Carrier Task Force under Admiral Mitscher) was concentrated near Saipan ready to meet the Japanese fleet.



More intelligence of the Japanese fleet's movements, from submarines and radio intercepts, came in during June 18. Shortly before midnight 18/19 June Admiral Nimitz sent Spruance a message from Pacific Fleet Headquarters indicating that the Japanese flagship was approximately 350 miles to the west-south-west of Task Force 58. Shortly afterwards Mitscher sought Spruance's permission to head west during the night to what - as Mitscher and his staff considered - would be an ideal launch position for an all-out dawn air attack on the enemy force.

However, Spruance refused. Throughout the run-up to the battle he had been concerned that the Japanese would try to draw his main fleet away from the landing area using a diversionary force, and would then make an attack around the flank of the US carrier force - an "end run" - hitting the invasion shipping off Saipan. Such methods were a long-standing part of the Japanese Navy's tactical doctrine .

Spruance was intensely conscious that protection of the invasion shipping was his paramount responsibility, and should therefore take precedence over the destruction of the Japanese fleet. Moreover, the Admiral considered, as he was later to observe, that "if we were doing something so important that we were attracting the enemy to us, we could afford to let him come - and take care of him when he arrived." In effect this was to be what happened during the battle.



Mitscher and his staff were aghast at Spruance's decision. Captain Arleigh Burke, the Task Force 38 Chief of Staff, bitterly commented that it "meant that the enemy could attack us at will at dawn the next morning. We could not attack the enemy."

The Fifth Fleet Commander was adversely criticised by many naval officers after the battle and continues to be condemned - by some writers - to the present day. A still common allegation is that Spruance decided as he did because he was not an aviator, and therefore must have had an inadequate understanding of the principles of carrier warfare.

Initial Actions of 19 June


At dawn - 0430 - on 19 June Task Force 58 was steaming E by N about 150 miles to the WSW of Saipan and about 100 miles to the NW of Guam.

This huge fleet - with nearly 99,000 personnel on board - was disposed in five groups - the four carrier groups and Admiral Lee's Battle Line.



First came the three stronger carrier groups in a north-south line abreast, with the centres of the groups 12-15 miles apart. Due west of the middle group of this line steamed Task Group 58.7 - Lee's Battle Line - with the weakest carrier group - Harrill's Task Group 58.4 - sailing within visual distance to the north of it.

The carrier groups were each disposed in a circle four miles in diameter (with the carriers in the centre of their respective groups but having plenty of room for safe manoeuvering while under attack), and the Battle Line was arranged in a circle about 6 miles in diameter, with the battleship Indiana as guide at the centre of this circle. The formation covered an area of sea roughly 35 miles by 25 miles.

At 0530 the task force turned north-eastwards, directly into the wind, and began to launch combat air patrol, anti-submarine patrols, and search missions. At 0619 Spruance ordered a change of course to WSW, hoping thereby to place the fleet closer to the as-yet unlocated enemy forces. But the carriers had to turn back into the wind whenever they were launching aircraft, and at 10am Task Force 58 was in almost exactly the same position as it had been at dawn.



The A-Go plan called for about 500 aircraft to be available on the land bases in the Marianas. In fact - partly because of the damage inflicted by the American carrier forces in strikes made between 11 June and 18 June - there were a mere 50 or so, all of them based on the island of Guam.

The first attack of the day came at 0550 when a scouting Zero from Guam attacked the picket destroyers of the Battle Line and was shot down.

The next action took place over Guam when Hellcats from the light carrier Belleau Wood, investigating a radar contact, encountered Japanese aircraft taking off from Orote Field. At 0807 more Japanese aircraft were detected by radar, heading towards Guam. These were reinforcements flying in from other Japanese-held islands. Fighters were vectored out to intercept them and there was continuous fighting over and around Guam for nearly an hour. 35 Japanese aircraft were shot down, but others were still taking off from Orote when the Hellcats received a "Hey Rube!" signal (calling them back over the carriers) from the task force flagship. Task Force 58 had detected large numbers of unidentified aircraft approaching from the west. These were the planes of the first attack wave from Ozawa's carriers, 68 or 69 aircraft in all.



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To: Victoria Delsoul
Evevning Victoria, Nice collage.
61 posted on 06/22/2003 8:41:14 PM PDT by SAMWolf (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..... right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Good Evening PhilDragoo.

Thanks for the info on the Hellcat and Essex Class Carriers.

She was destroyed only a few weeks after entereing service by a single torpedo hit from the US sub Albacore which ignited fuel vapors and blew her up.

That had to be every submariners dream.

62 posted on 06/22/2003 8:45:01 PM PDT by SAMWolf (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..... right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: PhilDragoo; snippy_about_it
LOL! You two having fun are you?
63 posted on 06/22/2003 8:45:48 PM PDT by SAMWolf (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..... right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

Spruance caught a lot of crap from the airedales, but these two here naver had any complaints about his performance.

Give Spruance his fifth star!

64 posted on 06/22/2003 10:06:18 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: SAMWolf; PhilDragoo
I read somewhere one of the problems the Japanese had at this point in the war is that they were using unrefined crude oil from Borneo for their boilers. The stuff was burnable but had a bad problem with vapors.
65 posted on 06/22/2003 10:14:12 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: SAMWolf
LOL! You two having fun are you?

Yep. :)

66 posted on 06/23/2003 2:47:51 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: PhilDragoo
BTTT!!!!!
67 posted on 06/23/2003 3:05:58 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: GATOR NAVY; SAMWolf
Sounds like Spruance might be good material for a thread.

:)

Good Morning.
68 posted on 06/23/2003 3:11:37 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: GATOR NAVY; SAMWolf
The Battle of Leyte Gulf

(third paragraph)

The fall of the Philippines would be a terrible blow to the Japanese. Most of their navy had been based at Brunei on the island of Borneo, close to the fleet’s oil supply. But that was all but exhausted now, and what little fuel remained was unrefined - barely burnable in warship boilers.

Gotta run to work. Have a good day.

69 posted on 06/23/2003 3:41:45 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Thank you for the kind words. I'll check out the Taffy 3 thread. Papa Mike passed away in 1992 but my son proudly bears his name.

He was a bosun's mate on Gambier Bay and his battle station was as a loader for one of the AA mounts. The ship gained notoriety as the only aircraft carrier of the war, on either side, to be sunk by surface gunfire.

He took shrapnel in the back during the engagement while going over the side and he said afterwards that it was a good thing he was lying on top of his Mae West when he went into the water since the shrapnel would have punctured it had his back not been in the way.

The rest of the story isn't pretty, I'm afraid. He spent two days in the water with other members of his crew before they were finally rescued. Crew members alternated shifts between an available lifeboat and cargo nets attached to the sides. And yes, there were sharks.

It took him quite awhile to open up about his experiences, and he once told me that he would still occasionally have nightmares about going "over the side".

We keep Mike's medals in a case in our bedroom. I just wish my son had known him. The painting of the Gambier Bay under fire, called "Freedom's Cost", hangs proudly in our living room. It's available through the VC-10 website.

As for Colonel Flagg, let's just call him an inspiration :)

70 posted on 06/23/2003 8:39:51 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Goodbye, Papa Mike .. and thank you)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Thakns for sharing "Papa Mike's" story with us at the Foxhole. My dad (fought in the Warsaw Uprising 1944) and my Father-in-law (Caost Guard - Africa, Sicily, Italy, Normandy and the Pacific) didn't open up until I went into the service. Guess they figured I'd understand better As for Colonel Flagg, let's just call him an inspiration :) Good enough for me.
71 posted on 06/23/2003 8:47:33 AM PDT by SAMWolf (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..... right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Hint Hint.
72 posted on 06/23/2003 8:47:59 AM PDT by SAMWolf (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..... right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
It's a wonderful tribute that you named your son after your father-in-law, he may not know him but he will know all about him from you.

Many Veterans don't talk much about their experiences and I wish more would. Their stories need to be told, every role is/was a very important piece of our history. I'm glad your 'Papa Mike' shared his with you and in turn you with us.

Thank you Colonel Flagg.
73 posted on 06/23/2003 8:48:14 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: snippy_about_it; GATOR NAVY
Boy!! Is Snippy good or what??
74 posted on 06/23/2003 8:49:24 AM PDT by SAMWolf (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..... right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: snippy_about_it
I'm horrible with HTML but the picture I mentioned can be viewed here ..

http://www.ussgambierbay-vc10.com/painting.htm

For the curious.

75 posted on 06/23/2003 8:52:01 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Goodbye, Papa Mike .. and thank you)
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76 posted on 06/23/2003 9:01:12 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: snippy_about_it
Thanks Snippy.
77 posted on 06/23/2003 9:02:01 AM PDT by SAMWolf (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..... right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Profuse thanks :)
78 posted on 06/23/2003 9:06:25 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Goodbye, Papa Mike .. and thank you)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
You're very welcome.

It's an excellent painting.
79 posted on 06/23/2003 9:09:39 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: SAMWolf
Hint Hint

There is no way you're running out of material. LOL.

80 posted on 06/23/2003 9:14:33 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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