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The Freepr Foxhole Profiles Clarence "Kelly" Johnson March 10, 2006
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Posted on 03/09/2006 7:15:31 PM PST by alfa6



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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for all those serving their country at this time.



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Clarence "Kelly" Johnson




"Be Quick, Be Quiet, And Be On Time"




I knew I wanted to design airplanes when I was 12 years old" says Johnson. "I read every Tom Swift novel I could get my hands on. I read "Tom Swift and his Airplane"; "Tom Swift and his Electric Car" ; "Tom Swift and his Submarine" and I said that's for me."

A native of Michigan, Johnson was born in the remote mining town of Ishpeming on November 27, 1910 to immigrant Swedish parents. Kelly was born seven years after the Wright Brothers made their first successful flight.

While attending grade school, Kelly was chided by some classmates for his name; Clarence. The other boys started calling me "Clara". One morning while waiting in line to get into a classroom, one boy named Cecil started with the normal routine of calling me "Clara". Kelly tripped the boy so hard it broke his leg. The boys then decided that I wasn't a "Clara" and looking for a new nickname started calling me "Kelly". The nickname came from the popular song at the time.."Kelly With the Green Neck Tie". From that time forward it would always be "Kelly Johnson".

After making his decision at the age of 12 to design aircraft, he went ahead to design his first airplane. Kelly called his first design "The Merlin 1, Battle Plane". Several weeks later he saw his first airplane; a World War I Jenny. His decision was confirmed.

He later moved to Flint where his father had a construction business. Kelly graduated from Flint High School, working summers with his father and in the motor test section of the Buick Motor Car Company. By graduation he had saved up $300. He tried to give it to an Instructor at the Flint Airport in exchange for flying lessons, but the Instructor shook his head and probably changed the entire course of Kelly's life. "I've always had the greatest respect for that man," Kelly said later. "He needed that money more than anything else in the world. But instead of taking it, he said, "Look kid..save that money and go to school."

Kelly graduated from Flint Junior College and completed his education at the University of Michigan, where he received His Bachelor of Science Degree in 1932. Kelly Johnson worked his way through school by picking up scholarships, washing dishes and helping a professor; Edward Stalker, as a Teaching Assistant. He went on to received his Master of Science Degree in Aeronautical Engineering in 1933. During this period he picked up small teaching fellowships and augmenting his income by renting the University's wind tunnel to run tests as a consultant on models of Indianapolis racing cars, trains and aircraft. "I made more more money that year than any of the first 10 years I worked for Lockheed." Kelly grins.

After graduating froom the University of Michigan in 1932 Kelly Johnson wenr out West to look for work in the aircraft industry. No work was to be found. Ther only encouragement Kelly recieved was from the Lockheed Company which had just come out of bankruptcy. No jobs were available at the time but engineering executive Richard von Hake suggested to Kelly. "Why don't you go back to school and come out again next year? I think we'll have something for you."

So back to the U of Michigan for a year to get a Masters in Aeronautical Engineering. Kelly's tuition was paid in part by a $500 fellowship grant and lots of hours at the wind tunnel. Among the projects that Kelly helped with in the wind tunnel was a model of the Lockheed Electra. The aircraft had some stability problems but the university professors and Lockheed execs thought that they were. Kelly Johnson thought otherwise.



He left college in 1933 with a master's of science degree, a used car, and plans to return to Lockheed and the promised job in California. Lockheed executive Cyril Chappellet and Chief Engineer Hall Hibbard hired the young Johnson as an $83 a month tool designer until there was an opening in engineering.

Kelly Johnson was asked his opinion of the Electra, the plane that the newly reorganized Lockheed Compamy was banking it's future on. Kelly never one to hide his light replied,"Practically the first thing I told Chappellet and Hibbard was that their plane was unstable and that I did not agree with the university's wind-tunnel report."

Back to Michigan U went Kelly Johnson to see if he could do better. It took 72 wind tunnel test but Kelly was able to improve the Electra. The result was the classic twin tail of the Electra line. Also in the design of the Electra was the introduction of "Fowler Flaps that enhanced low speed stability and braking and helped to improve the aircrafts speed in flight.

The design of the Fowler Flap earned Kelly Johnson the first of over fifty awards that he would gather over his carrer.In 1937 at the age of 27 Kelly Johnson was awarded by the Institute of Aeronautical Sciences the Lawrence Sperry Award for "important improvements of aeronautical design of high speed commercial aircraft". The Sperry award was given annually "for outstanding achievements in aeronautics by young men."



Also in 1937 Lockheed won the a design contract that would lead to the P-38 Lightning. It was Kelly Johnson's work in the wind tunnel that helped to solve the problems of compressibilty that threatened to end the Lighting program. Lockheed went on to build almost 10,000 P-38s whixh fought in all theaters of the war amd was flown by the two top aces of the United States.

In 1938 with Hitler threatning war in Europe the British sent a purchasing commission to the United States to lookk for aircraft to help re-arm England. Among the planes the comission was looking for was a coastal patrol bomber/antisubmarine aircraft. With only commercial aircraft in production Lockheed was not on the original schedule for the British comission. A change of plans however led the British to Lockheed with only five days notice to Lockheed.

With only five days to come up with something to present to the British Purchasing Commission Lockheed engineers and shop personell, using the Electra Model 14 as a starting point produced a full scale wooden mockup of a medium reconnaissance bomber. The British were so impressed by the enthusiasm of the Lockheed employees and their mockup that Lockheed was invited to send a group of people to England to confere with the Air Ministry on the proposed bomber. Of course Kelly Johnson was a member of this team.

At the meeting with the Air Ministry in England new specifications were requested that would require a major redesign of the proposed bomber. Working for three straight days over a holiday weekend, taking the occasional catnap Johnson redesigned the proposed bomber to meet the new specifications.

The British were astounded that the plane could be redesigned in such a short time, especially by such a young engineer. After a week of additional discussions the British called Courtland Goss of to the side to inquire as to wether or not Lockheed would stand behind their young engineer. Courtalnd Goss recalled the conversation thusly...

"Mr. Goss, we like your proposal very much, and we very much would like to deal with Lockheed. On the other hand, you must understand that we're very unused in this country to dealing--especially on transactions of such magnitude--on the technical say-so of a man as young as Mr. Johnson. And, therefore, I'll have to have your assurance . . . that if we do go forward, the aircraft resulting from the purchase will in every way live up to Mr. Johnson's specifications."

Of course Goss assured the British that Lockheed had every confidence in the capabilities of Kelly Johnson and that the Air Ministry would not be dissapointed with the new aircraft. On June 28, 1938 the British Air Ministry signed a contract worth $25,000,000 dollars for 200 of the proposed bomber plus as many more that could be built and delivered by December of 1939 up to a total of 250 aircraft. At the time it was the largest single order for aircraft that an American aircraft company hed seen. The proposed new bomber was the Hudson, the progenitor of the Venura and Harpoon that came later in WW-II.



In 1943 the "Skunk Works" was born. Lockheed had a contract with the Army Air Forces to develop a jet fighter built around British DeHavilland jet engine in only 180 days. The rush was in response to repoert that the Germans were flying a jet aircraft. Kelly Johnson with the approval of Lockheed President Robert E. Goss, Johnson formed a team of 23 engineers and 103 shop personnel that were mostly pirated from other projects. The team worked in a small assembly shed at the Lockheed plant in Burbank. Some reports indicat that an old circus tent was used owing to the lack of available secure space due to the need of wartime production demands.

In a 143 days, 37 days less than the contracted amount the P-80 Shooting Star made it first flight on January 8th, 1944. The Advanced Development Projects team had it's first succes. The nickname "Skunk Works" came from the Al Capp comic strip "L'il Abner" where the denizens of Dogpatch would throw in skunks, old shoes and who knew what else to make that fearsome brew "Kickapoo Joy Joice". The folks at Lockheed started to refer to the building where Kelly Johnson's crew was working as "The Skunk Works" because who knew what they where building.



Just a few of the military aircraft to come out of the Skunk Works ere the T-33 trainer variant of the F-80. The T-33 probanly traiined more pilots to fly jets than any other aircraft. The F-104 Starfighter, the "missle with a man in it" of the late 1950's. The P2V Neptune naval patrol bomber. It was a P2V, the Truculent Turtle, that etablished a non-stop distance record from Perth, Australia to Columbus,Ohio in 1946 of 11,235 miles.

Another Lockheed aircraft to benefit from Kelly Johnson's work was the Constellation. The Constellation was a civil airliner that was taken over by the military when WW-II broke out. After the war in became one of the premier piston engined airliners before the advent of the jet airliner. It also was used by the United States military in various forms as well.



It was the 1950s that saw the development what could arguably be two greatest designs of the Skunk Works, Driven by a need to conduct overflight reconnaissance of the Soviet Union in order to collect data on the Soviet military and misasle work the U.S. goverment turned to Kelly Johnson and the Advanced Development Project team. In 1955 the Skunk Works rolled out the long winged U-2. The U-2 could fly at over 70,000ft with a range of 4,000 miles. The U-2 was also a money saver. Johnson's team returned $2,000,000 of the $20,000,000 contract. Lockheed also built 26 of the U-2 aircraft instead of the 20 airctaft that was in the contract.



The other great aircraft to come out of the Skunk Works was of course the SR-71 Blackbird. in 1960 the U.S. Air Force gave the Skunk Works the go ahead to design and build what would become the SR-71. The idea of designing a plane that could fly at sustained speed in excess of Mach 3 was the most difficult challenge thast Kelly Johnson and the Skunk Works team would face. An aircraft that could fly at these speeds would take a whole host of inovations that at the time were basically unknown. Metals, fuel, plastic and wiring were just a few of the problems the the Skunk Works team had to overcome. It all came together however and in 1962 the first of the A-12s made it's maiden flight. The YF-12A flew in 1963 with the SR-71 making it's first flight on December 22, 1964.

The SR-71 in the 1970s went on to set records for speed (2,193 mph), altitude (85,069 feet). A New York to London flight of 3,470 miles was accomplished in one hour and fity four minutes. London to Los Angeles a distance of 5,463 miles only took three hours and forty seven minutes. In March of 1990 for it's retirement the SR-71 streaked across the United States in 68 minutes in a 2,400 mile coast to coast flight.





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To: w_over_w

There's much to a bridge.




Thank you. I especially love that poem. It rolled off my pen like softened honey from the comb.


61 posted on 03/11/2006 8:06:05 PM PST by Soaring Feather (Women Poets Rock the Babies, Baby Rocks the poet.)
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To: bentfeather
It rolled off my pen like softened honey from the comb.

. . . such a poet. =)

62 posted on 03/11/2006 8:40:56 PM PST by w_over_w (The more things change the more they stay the same. ~Bentfeather~)
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To: w_over_w

" 8. In 1882 the first hydroelectric plant in the United States was built at Fox River."

Competing claim, same year, Mississippi River in Minnesota:

'Nation's First Hydroelectric Plant

Site submitted by: Steve Lee
Location

River Mile 854.20 — Right Descending Bank
Significance

History
Infrastructure
Description

The Minnesota Brush Electric Company hydroelectric plant, the first plant to generate electricity from falling water in the western hemisphere, was built here in 1882. It was about 24 feet square with a turbine powering four generators, supplying lighting to saloons along Washington Avenue (Frost, Lyle. p. 17).'
http://www.fmr.org/fieldguide/site_detail.php?site_id=131
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" 9. The first practical typewriter was designed in Milwaukee in 1867."

I don't know how practical it was, but the precursor to the original Remington was designed there. Remington refined it and brought it to market from its factory in New York, but arguably the first practical typewriter was its successor, the Remington No. 2. It was the first with upper and lower case.
Sources: http://home.earthlink.net/~dcrehr/firsttw.html
and http://www.mytypewriter.com/generic.html?pid=21
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"15. Noah's Ark in Wisconsin Dells is the nation's largest water-themed park."

By acreage? By amount of water? by Attendance?

See extended discussion challenging the claim here:
http://themeparks.about.com/cs/waterparks/a/bigpark_2.htm
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" 19. Wisconsin is the dairy capital of the United States.

20. Wisconsin produces more milk than any other state. "

They need to change their chant to "We're number two! We're number two!

They lag California in both number of cows and milk production. WI 1240 cows, 1965 million pounds, CA 1772 cows, 3234 million pounds. They are way down the list on milk per cow. http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/reports/nassr/dairy/pmp-bb/2006/mkpr0206.txt
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Your comment is well taken.


63 posted on 03/11/2006 9:09:52 PM PST by PAR35
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To: alfa6

Both machines are personal favorites. The aerodynamic bones show so nicely. Like the facial bones on the young Audrey Hepburn.

Admire the way the B26 wing is flexing. Increased wing loading causes the wing ends to increase aspect ratio. Maybe the first time this was done on purpose? The U2 does this dramatically.


64 posted on 03/11/2006 11:47:01 PM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: BIGLOOK

Ah, SIGINT, no?


65 posted on 03/11/2006 11:48:37 PM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: Iris7

NSG, VQ-1


66 posted on 03/12/2006 12:01:00 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: w_over_w; All
I wish I had full knowledge (don't, not at all) but here is my current take on the "what if" question.

I think that Harper's Ferry was the center of gravity. I think General Jackson would agree.

Destroy the B&O and the Chesapeake and Ohio canal. Dig in on the Blue Ridge like crazy, heavy artillery, the works. Artillery could cover all the way down river to the bend about to where dam #3 is today. Make the Federals attack across the Shenandoah and then uphill. Fortify the Short Hill Mountain ridge as a fallback position. Put a chain across the Potomac upstream of the Shenandoah confluence with batteries to cover it. Don't know the railroad situation to the south in early '61, but build them up for sure.

Would not have been easy, the Federals knew full well what was at stake. Put Lee in charge of the defense (he was brilliant in positional fortified war, think the Siege of Richmond) with Jackson as the maneuver element, and, as Patton put it, "grab them by the nose and kick them in the (rear end)."

Joe Johnston downstream on the Potomac line. Put Bragg out to pasture. Have Forrest raid into Indiana and Ohio and burn Cincinnati. Don't shell Sumpter, no military or Naval reason for it, and a huge mistake.

Davis was a nice guy, dutiful to a fault, etc., but not the man for the job. In hindsight Forrest was.

Not an armchair general, have bigger ambitions than that! Armchair geostrategist (and history buff), at your service!

67 posted on 03/12/2006 1:01:57 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: snippy_about_it

You were destined to be a soldier, Snippy. Just like me. Just like Sam. I can't speak for the rest of us, but boy, there are people at the Foxhole who would be fine comrades in arms.


68 posted on 03/12/2006 1:07:40 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: w_over_w
Madison, Wisconsin? The capitol of what state? How about the state of self importance? How about the state of smug certainty of one's moral superiority? The state of self righteousness?

A recent Republican Governor said that Madison was a few square miles surrounded by reality. Madisonians hated him.

I suspect that the 1939 "Wizard of Oz" was a conscious metaphor for the illusion of socialism. The wizard was a powerless b.s.er and regular people, lost girls and confessed heartless, brainless, and courageless everyday people had to get the job done despite fear and incompetence. So I think of Madison as "the Emerald City".
69 posted on 03/12/2006 1:23:38 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: BIGLOOK
(Had to use Google to get your reference.)

The dome is pure radar receiving antenna, 10 cm maybe.

Reminds one that there is certain unfinished Neptune business on Hainan Island.

One hears of these unarmed flying radio receivers referred to as "spy planes". One remembers that we are talking about a Navy aircraft flying over international waters, totally unsurreptitiously, and no more a spy than any member of our armed forces.

Sure, bygones are bygones, but.......

70 posted on 03/12/2006 1:41:01 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: BIGLOOK

Those boys flew some serious missions. Either terribly tedious or terribly terrible and not much in between.

One recollects that the Sea of Japan is real cold. Floating ice in the winter.


71 posted on 03/12/2006 1:53:35 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: alfa6
I read that it was a fellow named Hal Hibbard, described as Lockheed's "enormously talented chief of engineering", who hired Johnson. Mr. Hibbard later impemented Johnson's designs without envy or resentment. Johnson was fiercely egotistical and abrasive.

Throughout Johnson's career Hibbard protected Johnson from the natural consequences of his personality and kept him on board and under enough control that Johnson did not become a loose cannon.

Hibbard and Johnson designed the Lightning. The P38 was perhaps the greatest fighter aircraft of the era. (The aircraft was massively incorrectly used in Europe and production went to the Pacific much to Japan's later sorrow.)

From Air Force Magazine:

Hibbard, who might reasonably have been annoyed by Johnson’s increasing hubris, always backed him. When pressed to define Johnson’s finest characteristic, Hibbard cited his great engineering skills but went on to note that Johnson “was intensely patriotic and a magnificent American.”

72 posted on 03/12/2006 2:26:28 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: w_over_w

Frozen Lake


O'er the frozen lakes they walked
a little people, tough as an ox
they build a berg, then a town,
brought in the cows, churned the cream,
made some cheese, as the world has seen.

Mount Horeb is the Troll Capital of the World
A capital filled with trolls
who would have known these ugly critters
have their own town
I guess it's best to keep them there,
but they break out sometimes and come here
FR has a cure for that, we have the Viking Kitties
for that
we zot them fast, a troll doesn't have class
we send them back to their capital act!


Well, there's a lot more to the Frozen Lake
the country is beautiful and bountiful to see.
the Green Bay Packers come from there
and Frank Lloyd Wright built The House on the Rock there.


Guess I better end this mess
or I shall never be a guest
in the Land of the Frozen Lake
Wisconsin, a grand state.

bentfeather

73 posted on 03/12/2006 7:33:07 AM PST by Soaring Feather (Women Poets Rock the Babies, Baby Rocks the poet.)
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To: Old Sarge; snippy_about_it; bentfeather; Samwise; Peanut Gallery; Wneighbor; Valin; alfa6; Iris7; ..
Good morning ladies and gents. Flag-o-Gram.

FReeper Old Sarge relaxes somewhere in Iraq.

Reporting from the Company Yard in the rich bottom lands of the Euphrates River Valley, it’s the continuing saga of Sarge's Most Excellent Adventure!

74 posted on 03/12/2006 8:05:11 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Algebra? It's a piece of pi.)
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To: w_over_w; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Iris7; Professional Engineer; Valin; bentfeather; PAR35; All
Busy Sunday Morning Bump for the Freeper Foxhole

Was woke up about 8:20 by the Tornadeee Sireen going off, wondering what the hedouble hockey sticks is going on as its about 45 degrees out. Run downstairs turn on the TV there is a big cell about 25 miles to the west and just north of the house. Okay nothing to worry about as tornadeees almost always move north east.

Find my scanner and the batteries are dead so pu+t in new batteries and start trying to get info. Leavenworth County, which is just west and north of me, their spotters are going nuts reporting all manners of bad sruff. Mostly golf ball and baseball size hail and lots of high wind.

So I am watching the radar and listening to the scanner when about 8:45 the howling winds of demonic sounds come through the nieghborhood. I grab some jeans and a shirt get dressed and go to get the wife up when I hear this loud CRACK!!! Look out the front door window and there is a big ol limb laying out on the sidewalk in front of my truck and next to the neighbors card.

By this time Mrs alfa6 is up and wondering what going on. The radar is showing nothing in our area, everything is well to the north of our location. Okay must have been a gust front but I don't recall ever having one this loud and long come through here before. Anyway by now the wind has died down and it looks safe to go outside.

AH crap, the big limb has hit the fender of my truck amd put a small dent in it. The same fender got hit in the same spot about 5 years ago during an ice storm and I had the fender fixed. That was about $1200 that time. It also killed on of Mrs alfa6's lawn gnomes. So I get out the chain saw and proceed to add to the firewood stash. While cutting up the limb out in the street I notice a bunch of cars stopping about 3 blocks down the street.

The folks down there had a good size chunk of tree come down. It smashed the chain link fince in the front yard and did some minor damage to the chimney, the gutters on the corner of the house and broke a couple of windows on the side of the house. It missed completely thier car somehow, I got out of the truck and the tree parts surronded the car but not a scratch or dent anywhere.

Any way it is a fun day in the nieghborhood today.

If I can find my picrures I will post them later.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

75 posted on 03/12/2006 8:16:38 AM PST by alfa6
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To: alfa6

WOW what a way to wake up!


Thank God all are safe.


76 posted on 03/12/2006 8:21:04 AM PST by Soaring Feather (Women Poets Rock the Babies, Baby Rocks the poet.)
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To: Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery; bittygirl

Morning, PE!

You know I was thinking about Bittygirl and the soggy crackers in the baby wipes deal, I think you were better off with Jesus, Joseph and Mary in your shoes. ;)


77 posted on 03/12/2006 8:23:29 AM PST by Soaring Feather (Women Poets Rock the Babies, Baby Rocks the poet.)
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To: Iris7
LOL! You're from Wisconsin and you can d@amn well say whatever you want. I have a uncle in Manitowoc . . . we have to make every effort to NEVER bring up politics or the economy when talking to him . . . remember our earlier discussion on forms of "extinction level events"? There you go!

BTW, I was fasinated by your history rewrite on the "what if" question. I know you want to visit Gettysburg one day . . . read Newt Gingrich's history rewrite "Gettysburg" wherein Lee takes Longstreets advise and allows him to move his Corps down to Emmitsburg over Monocacy Creek bridge and into Taneytown in order to flank the Union and cut off it's supply routes. I don't want to give away the rest . . .

78 posted on 03/12/2006 9:11:05 AM PST by w_over_w (The more things change the more they stay the same. ~Bentfeather~)
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To: bentfeather
Author! Author! Author!

we zot them fast, a troll doesn't have class
we send them back to their capital act! a$$!

[sorry . . . too tempting]

79 posted on 03/12/2006 9:16:22 AM PST by w_over_w (The more things change the more they stay the same. ~Bentfeather~)
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To: alfa6
MERCY! Thanks for the play by play and thank the good Lord you are okay. I don't know if any pictures will do justice to your description of events . . . gave me chills.
80 posted on 03/12/2006 9:21:57 AM PST by w_over_w (The more things change the more they stay the same. ~Bentfeather~)
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