[rwfromkansas]

I admit there is a part of me that hates the thought of giving up a national moral standard on issues. If I can bring myself to do this and come fully to the state's rights position for EVERY common law area, I have to say I still would be bothered by the libertarians....not because of their position on state's rights, but on their refusal as a group to stand and declare that every life is sacred, drugs destroy lives, morality matters and a small group of reprobates can corrupt much larger groups of people. You see, the founding fathers did not shy away from declaring God is the ruler of nations and people in society need to have strong ethics and that includes strong laws to maintain this morality (at the state level, of course).

[rwfromkansas]

That is where the libertarians fall short. That is why if I joined a party, it would be the Constitution Party. They actually recognize the serious importance of an ethical and moral people in a Republic...without it, a Republic WILL fall eventually.

[Rafterman1]

You see, the founding fathers did not shy away from declaring God is the ruler of nations...

Bullfeathers...IMHO, the Founding Fathers intended the Federal Government to be neutral toward religion (with the basic understanding that most of the people in the US are Christian, of course). Otherwise, they would have simply declared Christianity to be the official state religion. Instead, they saw fit to give us this:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...