[rwfromkansas]

That is where the libertarians fall short. That is why if I joined a party, it would be the Constitution Party. They actually recognize the serious importance of an ethical and moral people in a Republic...without it, a Republic WILL fall eventually.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

That is where the libertarians fall short. That is why if I joined a party, it would be the Constitution Party. They actually recognize the serious importance of an ethical and moral people in a Republic...without it, a Republic WILL fall eventually.

I nearly voted Constitution in 2000.

I voted Libertarian, because I decided that it is silly to expect Morality to be preserved by Government. Government is the enemy of Morality at its best, because Government is Force and Forced Morality is not Morality, it is Hypocrisy.

Which is, itself, a Sin.

A Republic not founded upon an ethical and moral people, will indeed Die. But a Republic not founded upon an ethical and moral people deserves to Die. Trusting Government to forestall the dissolution only makes one party to an anti-Christian form of Messianic Statism.

Where God has failed us, Government will succeed?

God has not failed us, we have failed God. And Government will not succeed, nor bring us back to God, nor help one little bit. Government is an Idol, craves your obeisance, and will only make things worse.

The Government is your Enemy, and the Government desires your Worship. Think about it.